If the observer effect changes the results of measurements in QM, would the rules be different if there were no observers? Like on earth a billion years ago, there was nothing like an active mind around, just microbes. You couldn't count them as effecting QM could you? Likewise, if you posit life having been around the galaxy billions of years ago and therefore a universe with active minds to interfere with QM, what about the time 13 billion years ago, when there were hardly stars around, just the plasma clouds condensing and not much even in the way of organic material, forget life. So there had to have been a time when the entire universe was totally mindless. So in that early universe, were the rules different than they would be now as far as QM goes? Does a mindless universe and a universe with minds operate any differently?