Quantization using the bohr model

In summary, the conversation discusses a new fifth force that binds an object to a central body through a potential energy function. The force and total energy of the object in orbit are determined, and the Bohr model is used to determine the permitted values of the object's radius and the constants associated with its total energy. The conversation also mentions ignoring the Coulomb and gravitational forces in this scenario.
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bohr model: permitted radii?

Homework Statement



A new (fifth) force has been proposed that binds an object to a central body through a potential
energy function given by:
[tex]U(r) = -Dr^{\frac{-3}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]2 r > 0[/tex] and [tex]D > 0[/tex]

(a) What is the (central) force F(r) associated with this potential energy function?
The object (with mass m) is in an orbit around a central body. The central body is electrically
neutral so we can ignore the Coulomb force. Further, we can ignore the gravitational force
between the object and the central body as it is insignificant compared to the “fifth force.”

(b) What is the total energy of this body in orbit? Is it bound to the central body? Explain
your reasoning.

(c) Using the Bohr model that says that angular momentum is quantized, [tex]L = mvr = n\hbar[/tex], determine the permitted values of the object’s radius [tex]r_{n}[/tex].

(d) The total energy of the object associated with [tex]r_{n}[/tex] is also quantized. The general form of this energy expression is [tex]En = an^{b}[/tex] where a and b are constants. Determine these constants.

Homework Equations


[tex]E=U+K[/tex]
[tex]F=ma[/tex] (I think..)

The Attempt at a Solution



a:
Got this one:
Differentiate the first formula to [tex]dU(r) = {\frac{3}{2}}Dr^{\frac{-5}{2}}[/tex]

b:
this one too:
[tex]E=U+K[/tex]
with [tex]K=\frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex] and [tex]U=-Dr^{\frac{-3}{2}}[/tex]

c:
I tried [tex]{\frac{3}{2}}Dr^{\frac{-5}{2}}=ma[/tex] and [tex]a=\frac{v^{2}}{r_{n}}[/tex] with gives [tex]r_{n}=\frac{9}{4}(\frac{D}{nv\hbar})^{2}[/tex] but I don't know if it is correct.

d. I don't know how tackle this.
 
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mcel said:
A new (fifth) force has been proposed that binds an object to a central body through a potential
energy function given by:
[tex]U(r) = -Dr^{\frac{-3}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]2 r > 0[/tex] and [tex]D > 0[/tex]
(b) What is the total energy of this body in orbit? Is it bound to the central body? Explain
your reasoning.

b:
[tex]E=U+K[/tex]
with [tex]K=\frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex] and [tex]U=-Dr^{\frac{-3}{2}}[/tex]
What is v? Did you answer the rest of the question?



mcel said:
(c) Using the Bohr model that says that angular momentum is quantized, [tex]L = mvr = n\hbar[/tex], determine the permitted values of the object’s radius [tex]r_{n}[/tex].

c:
I tried [tex]{\frac{3}{2}}Dr^{\frac{-5}{2}}=ma[/tex] and [tex]a=\frac{v^{2}}{r_{n}}[/tex] with gives [tex]r_{n}=\frac{9}{4}(\frac{D}{nv\hbar})^{2}[/tex] but I don't know if it is correct.
Again, what is v? In this case, you definitely shouldn't have a v-dependent r, unless v is also quantized. Is it? Ultimately, it is probably best to remove v from all considerations, since this problem is getting at the QM, and v is much more CM than QM.
 
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I got it. Thanks for the help :)
 

What is quantization using the Bohr model?

Quantization using the Bohr model is a theory developed by Niels Bohr in 1913 to explain the behavior of electrons in an atom. It states that electrons can only exist in specific energy levels or orbits around the nucleus, and they can only transition between these levels by absorbing or emitting specific amounts of energy.

How does the Bohr model explain the stability of atoms?

According to the Bohr model, atoms are stable because the electrons are in their lowest energy state, also known as the ground state. This means that they are in the lowest possible orbit around the nucleus and cannot lose any more energy. If an electron were to absorb energy and move to a higher energy level, it would eventually return to the ground state and release the energy in the form of light, making the atom stable again.

What is the significance of the quantized energy levels in the Bohr model?

The quantized energy levels in the Bohr model are significant because they explain the discrete emission and absorption spectra observed in atoms. Each energy level corresponds to a specific frequency or wavelength of light, and when an electron transitions between levels, it emits or absorbs a photon of that specific energy. This is why each element has a unique emission spectrum, as the energy levels are different for each atom.

How does the Bohr model differ from the modern quantum mechanical model of the atom?

The Bohr model is a simplified version of the modern quantum mechanical model of the atom. While the Bohr model only considers electrons orbiting the nucleus in specific energy levels, the quantum model takes into account the wave-like nature of electrons and their uncertain position and momentum. The quantum model also uses mathematical equations to describe the behavior of electrons, while the Bohr model is based on classical physics principles.

Is the Bohr model still relevant in modern science?

Although the Bohr model has been replaced by the more accurate quantum mechanical model, it is still relevant in modern science. The Bohr model provides a foundation for understanding the behavior of electrons in atoms and is still used as a simplified model in introductory chemistry and physics courses. It also led to further developments in quantum mechanics and our understanding of atomic structure.

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