Understanding Redshift: The Role of Relative Motion between Emitter and Absorber

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In summary, the concept of redshift is due to the relative motion between an emitter and an absorber, rather than the relative motion between light and the emitter or absorber. This is regardless of whether light is emitted or absorbed instantaneously or not.
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As light interacts as a particle and when being absorbed or emitted by an electron that is done instantaneously, that is, no time between the photons energy not being contained (I’m unsure as to whether or not this is the correct word) within the electron to being contained within it, how does redshift occur since it’s due to relative motion between an emitter and an absorber, since the photon was emitted in a single instant where (presumably) no motion can occur?

There’s likely a very simple answer due to a flaw in my reasoning, I’m as yet unable to find it though
 
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Harry17 said:
As light interacts as a particle and when being absorbed or emitted by an electron that is done instantaneously

Why do you think this must be the case? We don't measure "how long" it takes for light to be absorbed or emitted by an electron; it's not even clear that it's meaningful to ask how long it takes.

But even if we assume for the sake of argument that your statement here is correct, it still doesn't support your argument. See below.

Harry17 said:
how does redshift occur since it’s due to relative motion between an emitter and an absorber, since the photon was emitted in a single instant where (presumably) no motion can occur?

Redshift is due to relative motion between the emitter and the absorber. Your claim is that light is emitted instantaneously and absorbed instantaneously, so therefore there is no relative motion between the photon and the emitter when it is emitted, and no relative motion between the photon and the absorber when it is absorbed. But that in no way means that there is not relative motion between the emitter and the absorber.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Your claim is that light is emitted instantaneously and absorbed instantaneously, so therefore there is no relative motion between the photon and the emitter when it is emitted, and no relative motion between the photon and the absorber when it is absorbed.

Note that even if we assume that light is emitted and absorbed instantaneously, that still does not require that there is no relative motion between the light and the emitter or absorber. Light is massless, so it does not require time to accelerate; it can (at least in the approximation we are using here) instantaneously start or stop moving at the speed of light, so it can instantaneously have motion relative to the emitter as it's emitted, and instantaneously have motion relative to the absorber as it's absorbed.

But the more important point is the one I made in my last post, that the relative motion that is pertinent for redshift is the relative motion between emitter and absorber, not relative motion between the light and either of those.
 

1. What is redshift?

Redshift is a phenomenon in which the light from an object appears to be shifted towards longer wavelengths, or the red end of the spectrum. This is caused by the Doppler effect, where the object is moving away from the observer, stretching out the wavelengths of the light.

2. How is redshift measured?

Redshift is measured using a spectrometer, which separates the light into its component wavelengths. The amount of redshift is determined by comparing the observed wavelength of a known spectral line to its expected wavelength. This can then be used to calculate the velocity of the object.

3. What causes redshift?

Redshift can be caused by a variety of factors, including the expansion of the universe, the motion of objects relative to each other, and the effects of gravity. In most cases, redshift is a result of the Doppler effect, where the motion of an object causes a shift in the wavelengths of light.

4. How is redshift related to the age of the universe?

The amount of redshift observed in an object can be used to estimate its distance from Earth. This, in turn, can be used to calculate the age of the universe, as objects that are further away are also seen as they were further back in time. Therefore, the larger the redshift, the further back in time the object is and the older the universe is estimated to be.

5. Can redshift be used to determine the composition of objects?

Yes, redshift can provide valuable information about the composition of objects. By analyzing the spectral lines of the light from an object, scientists can determine the chemical elements present in that object. This can help us understand the composition of stars, galaxies, and other celestial bodies.

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