Solving Tensor Calculus Question from Schutz Intro to GR

In summary, the equation ##x^{\alpha '} = (\delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta)x^\beta## is a valid equation that can be used to transform coordinates between two frames, assuming that the metric tensors in the two frames are similar. However, the coordinate transformation rules for the metric tensor do not always hold, and must be supplemented by information about how the frames are related.
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I am doing a problem from Schutz, Introduction to general relativity.The question asks you to find a coordinate transformation to a local inertial frame from a weak field Newtonian metric tensor ##(ds^2=-(1+2\phi)dt^2+(1-2\phi)(dx^2+dy^2+dz^2))##. I looked at the solution from a manual and it has the following equation,$$x^{\alpha '} = (\delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta)x^\beta$$.
##L^\alpha_\beta## is a function of the Newtonian potential ##\phi##.

My question is: Is this a valid tensor equation?

The transformation is motivated by the idea that when ##\phi## is zero then you already have a locally inertial frame hence ##L^\alpha_\beta## are all zero and ##x^{\alpha '} = x^{\alpha}## which is very understandable. But is the equation ##x^{\alpha '} = (\delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta)x^\beta## symbolically correct (because the superscripts don't balance out like they normally do in tensor calculus)? But may be if ##L^\alpha_\beta## is not a tensor then it does not have to obey those principles of tensor calculus.
 
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It is a linear change of coordinates, not a tensor equation. Coordinates are not tensors.
 
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Orodruin said:
It is a linear change of coordinates, not a tensor equation. Coordinates are not tensors.

Hence the rules of tensor calculus do not apply. This is just some equation where symbols do not have tensorial meanings.

But then if you want to transform from one coordinate system to another, how do you know how the coordinates transform? Given you only know the metric tensors in the two frame? Or it can't be done that way and you need some additional information about how the two frames are related? Perhaps some physical intuition like in this problem where the related them by the idea that if ##\phi=0## then you already have a locally inertial frame. Which was then used to derive the equation ##x^{\alpha '} = (\delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta)x^\beta##.
 
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shahbaznihal said:
But then if you want to transform from one coordinate system to another, how do you know how the coordinates transform? Given you only know the metric tensors in the two frame?
Just knowing the components of the metric is generally not sufficient because there can be several coordinate systems satisfying the same requirement. However, note that with your ansatz of a linear relationship between the coordinates, you have
$$
\frac{\partial x'^{\alpha'}}{\partial x^\beta} = \delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta.
$$
This should let you find some restrictions on ##L## based on the transformation rules for the metric tensor.
 
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That is how the solution proceeds as well. Actually, since ##L^\alpha_\beta## is a function of Newtonian potential ##\phi (x,y,z)## then it also needs to be differentiated which gives, $$\frac{\partial x^{\alpha '}}{\partial x^\gamma}=\delta^{\alpha}_\gamma + L^{\alpha}_\gamma + L^\alpha_{\beta, \gamma} x^\beta$$ But yeah, that is the point of the solution.
 
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Orodruin said:
Just knowing the components of the metric is generally not sufficient because there can be several coordinate systems satisfying the same requirement. However, note that with your ansatz of a linear relationship between the coordinates, you have
$$
\frac{\partial x'^{\alpha'}}{\partial x^\beta} = \delta^\alpha_\beta + L^\alpha_\beta.
$$
This should let you find some restrictions on ##L## based on the transformation rules for the metric tensor.

But in deriving the above equations, the idea of contraction is used. So the coordinates are not tensors but their derivatives are. Correct?

Is the idea of contraction a tensor operation? Or is it just a way of compactly writing a bunch of equations i.e. $$f^\alpha_\beta = T^\alpha_\gamma T^\gamma_\beta$$ is just a set of functions with terms quadratic is some function ##T##?
 
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shahbaznihal said:
But in deriving the above equations, the idea of contraction is used. So the coordinates are not tensors but their derivatives are. Correct?
No, this is not correct. Summing over two indices does not necessarily mean that you have tensor expressions. Consider the Lorentz transformation ##x'^{\alpha'} = \Lambda^{\alpha'}_\beta x^\beta##. The transformation coefficients ##\Lambda^{\alpha'}_\beta## are not tensors, they are coefficients that tell you how the coordinates are related.

The derivative of a coordinate with respect to some curve parameter is (by definition) the components of a tangent vector. The partial derivatives of some set of coordinates with respect to another set of coordinates are the transformation coefficients that tell you how tensor components transform between the systems. They are not by themselves tensors.
 
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Thanks a bunch for the greatly useful discussion :)
 
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1. What is tensor calculus?

Tensor calculus is a branch of mathematics that deals with the properties and operations of tensors, which are mathematical objects that represent physical quantities in multiple dimensions. It is used in various fields of science, such as physics, engineering, and computer science, to model and analyze complex systems.

2. How is tensor calculus used in general relativity?

Tensor calculus is an essential tool in general relativity, a theory that describes the gravitational interactions between objects in the universe. It is used to express the equations of general relativity in a covariant form, making them valid in all reference frames. This allows us to understand the behavior of objects in the presence of massive bodies, such as planets and stars.

3. What is the Schutz Intro to GR book about?

The Schutz Intro to GR (General Relativity) book is a comprehensive introduction to the fundamentals of general relativity, including tensor calculus. It covers topics such as curved spacetime, the equivalence principle, and the Einstein field equations. It is a widely used textbook for undergraduate and graduate courses in general relativity.

4. What are some common applications of tensor calculus?

Tensor calculus has many applications in various fields, such as physics, engineering, and computer science. Some common applications include studying the behavior of materials under stress, analyzing the flow of fluids, and developing algorithms for machine learning and image processing. It is also used in the design and control of complex systems, such as spacecraft and robots.

5. Is tensor calculus difficult to learn?

Tensor calculus can be challenging to learn, but with patience and practice, it can be mastered. It requires a solid understanding of linear algebra and multivariable calculus. It is also helpful to have a strong background in physics, as many of the concepts in tensor calculus are related to physical quantities and their transformations. With dedication and effort, anyone can learn and apply tensor calculus to solve complex problems.

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