S.H.M Homework - Why Consider One Mass Only?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the analysis of a system with two masses connected by a spring, where each mass is considered separately in terms of its displacement, mass, and force. The use of ma instead of 2ma is explained in terms of analyzing each mass individually.
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I know how to show ,but I don't understand why we consider one mass only

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That looks like two masses connected by a spring. You describe the motion of each mass (with respect to the center) separately, but they are definitely connected.
 
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Doc Al said:
That looks like two masses connected by a spring. You describe the motion of each mass (with respect to the center) separately, but they are definitely connected.

they strecthed at the same time.
so

ma =-kx
a=-(k/m) x
ma=-kx
a= -(k/m)x

but I don't know how to combine as

a=-(2k/m)x

I think it should be a=-(2k/2m)x = -(k/m)x
 
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I believe that instead of stretching both, you could hold one down and stretch the other twice as far.
 
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Feldoh said:
I believe that instead of stretching both, you could hold one down and stretch the other twice as far.

That means

ma = -k(2x)?
a=(-2k/m)x ?

I am doubt why ma is used instead of 2ma ?
the whole mass of system is 2m ?
 
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mysqlpress said:
they strecthed at the same time.
so

ma =-kx
a=-(k/m) x
ma=-kx
a= -(k/m)x
If x is the displacement of each mass, the amount of stretch in the spring is 2x.
 
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Doc Al said:
If x is the displacement of each mass, the amount of stretch in the spring is 2x.
but why should we use

ma=-2kx
but not
2ma=-2kx ?
since there are two bob with mass m..
 
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mysqlpress said:
but why should we use

ma=-2kx
but not
2ma=-2kx ?
since there are two bob with mass m..
Because we are analyzing the motion of each mass separately:

What's the mass? m
What's the stretch of the spring? 2x
What's the force on each mass? -2kx
 
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Doc Al said:
Because we are analyzing the motion of each mass separately:

What's the mass? m
What's the stretch of the spring? 2x
What's the force on each mass? -2kx

Thanks Doc Al.
you do help me a lot :devil:
 

1. What is S.H.M?

S.H.M stands for Simple Harmonic Motion. It is a type of periodic motion in which the restoring force is directly proportional to the displacement and acts towards the equilibrium position.

2. Why should we consider only one mass in S.H.M homework?

In S.H.M, the system consists of a single mass attached to a spring. This simplifies the equations and makes it easier to analyze and solve the problem.

3. Can we consider more than one mass in S.H.M homework?

Yes, in some cases, a system with multiple masses connected by springs can exhibit S.H.M. However, it is more complex to analyze and requires advanced mathematical techniques.

4. How does changing the mass affect the S.H.M of a system?

Changing the mass affects the time period and frequency of S.H.M. A larger mass will result in a longer time period and a lower frequency, while a smaller mass will result in a shorter time period and a higher frequency.

5. Does the amplitude of the motion depend on the mass in S.H.M?

Yes, the amplitude of the motion is directly proportional to the mass in S.H.M. A larger mass will result in a larger amplitude, while a smaller mass will result in a smaller amplitude.

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