Calculating dB: Understanding the Addition of Sound Intensities

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In summary: The first error is the use of decibels without specifying what they are representing. In this case, they are representing an intensity, but without specifying what type of intensity, the answer is inaccurate. The second error is the use of two different intensities without specifying what the difference is. Without knowing what the difference is, it is impossible to calculate the correct answer. The third error is the use of decibels in a non-linear way. In this case, the answer would be incorrect if the decibel values were just added without any consideration for the base ratios. To get the correct answer, the values would need to be multiplied by the base ratios first and then the decibel values added.
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Homework Statement



What is 80dB+75dB?

I found the individual intesities to be 0.0001 and .0000316228

Then I added them and:

dB=10log(1.31622x10^-4/1x10^-12)=81.19 dB

Is that right?

Thanks!
 
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Whether you add values directly or add the intensities must be determined from the specific context. Without any I would assume you're adding numbers so 80dB + 75dB=155dB.

If for example you are considering decibel amplification or attenuation in stages then the sequential scaling of intensities will multiply and so again the decibel gains will add.

If you are superposing two sources with decibel intensities relative to some base level then your method would be correct.

But as you can see two contexts yields two different methods. Do you have more info?
 
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Decibels are used in so many different ways it would help to know how the decibels are being used to be sure of getting the right answer. Generally decibels represent a ratio or more precisely 10 times the logarithm of a ratio. When used to represent an intensity, they usually have another letter to indicate what they are representing such as dBm or dBu. When the ratio is between two voltages, decibels are usually calculated using 20 times the logarithm instead of 10 times so the dB value represents the power ratio, not the voltage ratio. Note: when decibels are used for voltages, all the voltages must be measured at the same impedance.

Usually when decibels are added, they are simply added which is equivalent to multiplying the base ratios. Note that decibel values greater than zero represent ratios or values greater than one and values less than zero represent numbers between zero and one. Adding decibels is equivalent to multiplying the base values and subtracting is equivalent to dividing.

If I understand the problem correctly, you have several errors in your example resulting in a wrong answer.
 

1. What is a decibel?

A decibel (dB) is a unit of measurement used to express the intensity or loudness of a sound. It is a logarithmic unit that compares the sound pressure level to a reference level.

2. How is the decibel scale calculated?

The decibel scale is calculated using logarithms. The formula is: dB = 10 log (P/P0), where P is the measured sound pressure level and P0 is the reference level.

3. What is the reference level for sound?

The reference level for sound is 0 dB, which is the threshold of human hearing. It is equivalent to a sound pressure level of 20 μPa (micropascals).

4. Is the decibel scale linear or logarithmic?

The decibel scale is logarithmic, meaning that a change of 10 dB represents a tenfold change in sound intensity. For example, 80 dB is 10 times louder than 70 dB.

5. What is the difference between dB(A) and dB(C)?

dB(A) and dB(C) are weighting scales used to measure sound levels. dB(A) is the A-weighted scale, which takes into account human perception of sound and is commonly used for environmental noise measurements. dB(C) is the C-weighted scale, which measures all frequencies equally and is used for industrial noise measurements.

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