Understanding Experimental Error: Standard Deviation vs. Instrumental Precision

In summary, the discussion is about the use of + or - in various contexts and how it relates to standard deviation and instrumental precision. It is mentioned that in certain cases, such as measuring the length of a dollar bill, the error may be due to instrumental precision rather than standard deviation. The only way to know for sure is to communicate with the person who conducted the experiment.
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amm17
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When coming into contact with a result such as a + or - b, what should one take the quantity 'b' as? Is it always the standard deviation? Or is it an arbitrary uncertainty decided by the scientist running the experiment, based on the equipment? Please help.
Thanks,
Andrew
 
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Um it really depends on the context. It is hard for us to know what you are talking about because we use + or - all the time.

For example

|x| = 5 implies that x = + or - 5.

or in the quadratic equation

x = + or - the square root of b squared minus 4 ac...

These have nothing to do with standard deviation.

Or for example survey results.

60% or a population + or - 3%, this is error not standard deviation.

These are just a few examples, but we use + or - in a huge number of ways and contexts. So can you tell us a little more what you are talking about? Is there a specific scientific result you are looking at that prompted this question?

We need more info.
 
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Say that a scientist has found, using some experiment, that the acceleration due to gravity is 9.92 +or- .15 m/s^2. Is the .15 the standard deviation, or not necessarily? What else could it be?
Thanks
 
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amm17 said:
What else could it be?

It could be the uncertainty due to having only a finite number of digits of precision. For example, someone may calibrate a device that has a 16 digit binary output so that its min reading (sxteen zeroes) is 2.80 V and its max reading (sixteen ones) is 900.60 V. If the device gives a reading in between these values, it will only be precise to 16 binary digits. The uncertainty in what a missing 17th digit would represent gives you an error that doesn't necessarily correspond to the uncertainty in not knowing a base 10 digit.
 
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Great, thank you. Now how do you know when the quoted error is standard deviation or instrumental precision? I would guess that an experiment that has no use being repeated (like measuring the length of a dollar bill) would feature an error due to instrumental precision, whereas an experiment worth repeating might have a standard deviation as an error. Thoughts?
 
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amm17 said:
Great, thank you. Now how do you know when the quoted error is standard deviation or instrumental precision?

The only way to know for sure is to communicate directly with the person who did the experiment.

I would guess that an experiment that has no use being repeated (like measuring the length of a dollar bill) would feature an error due to instrumental precision

One of my brothers once showed me that he could shrink a dollar bill by repeatedly folding it up and unfolding it. - I couldn't resist mentioning that.
 

1. What is experimental error?

Experimental error refers to the difference between the measured value of a quantity and its true value. It can arise due to various factors such as limitations of measurement tools, human error, or uncontrollable variables in the experiment.

2. How is experimental error calculated?

Experimental error is typically calculated by finding the difference between the measured value and the accepted or true value, and then dividing that difference by the accepted value. This value is then usually expressed as a percentage to indicate the relative magnitude of the error.

3. Why is it important to quote experimental error?

Quoting experimental error is important because it allows for a more accurate representation of the data and results obtained from an experiment. It also helps to identify any sources of error and evaluate the reliability of the data.

4. Can experimental error be completely eliminated?

No, it is not possible to completely eliminate experimental error. However, it can be minimized by using more precise measurement tools, careful experimental design, and repetition of the experiment to reduce the impact of random errors.

5. How does experimental error affect the validity of an experiment?

The presence of experimental error does not necessarily invalidate an experiment. However, if the error is significant and has not been accounted for, it can lead to inaccurate conclusions and affect the overall validity of the experiment. It is important to acknowledge and address any sources of error in order to ensure the reliability of the results.

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