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<Arnold.Neumaier@univie.ac.at> wrote:

> Greg Egan wrote:

> > http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/KleinQuartic/KleinDualOrder7.gif [Broken]

> >

> > shows a rotation around a heptavalent vertex in the triangular tiling

> > of Klein's quartic curve, mapped on to a 3d figure with tetrahedral

> > symmetry.

> >

> > This is a wireframe image that only shows the edges, because it allows

> > you to see that there are 3 vertices kept fixed by this rotation, and

> > that the rotation around the other 2 vertices is faster than around the

> > first!

>

> Could you give 7 different colors to the edges emanating from the

> fixed vertex on the top? This would help interpret the movie!

>

> Arnold Neumaier

I could do that, but it would make the movie 7 times bigger as a file,

because then I'd have to show a complete rotation instead of just (1/7)

of one. For various technical reasons that would be quite arduous (due

to Mathematica's inadequacies I have to cut and paste each frame manually

into another application, and while that's tolerable for 27 frames, for

189 it's too much), as well as make the whole thing slower to download.

It *is* quite hard to see what's happening here, because a number of the

edges are moving largely towards/away from the viewpoint. Probably it

would be better if I can try to find an embedding of the surface with

order-7 symmetry at some of the vertices, just as the tetrahedral

embedding has order 3 symmetry at 8 of the faces.

I don't want to give anyone the false impression, though, that it's even

possible to enact this symmetry by a continuous motion of the tiling

along Klein's quartic curve itself. Klein's quartic curve has no

continuous symmetries, only discrete ones, so there is no truly correct

movie to be made of what happens for anything less than (1/7) of a

rotation. And in contrast to the order-2 symmetry shown in:

http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/KleinQuartic/KleinDualInsideOut.gi [Broken]

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where the embedded surface can at least retain its topology in a smooth

sequence of embeddings that ends by returning to the initial range in R^3

with the correct permutation of faces/edges/vertices, I don't think

that's possible for the order 7 rotation. (If I put faces over the

wireframe of the current model, the surface undergoes self-intersections

that seem to be unavoidable.)

Anyway, I'll see if I can come up with something clearer.

Greg Egan

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