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>magine a cloud of particles with world lines starting from the

>origin of Minkowski space with all possible velocities, spreading out at

>all angles. By cutting out wedges around their world lines, we ought to

>be able to get one of the expanding hyperboloid FRW solutions, where each

>spacelike slice at time t is isometric to the unit hyperboloid multiplied

>by sqrt(1+2C) t, and the world lines of all the particles are normal to

>every spacelike slice.

>

>In hyperbolic geometry the area and circumference of a circle increase

>with distance faster than in the Euclidean plane, but as we move out

>through our cloud of particles in Minkowski space with wedges cut out,

>we're *losing* area and circumference. So all the hyperboloids in the

>original Minkowski space get flattened out. I guess the trick is to find

>a way to make sure that their geometry is still that of a hyperboloid, but

>a slightly larger, hence flatter, one ... by a factor of sqrt(1+2C). But

>I haven't been able to figure out yet how to get the particles distributed

>in the original Minkowski spacetime in such a way that everything works

>out nicely.

Amazingly enough, this does work! The geometry of the hyperboloids in

Minkowski spacetime is changed, by the excision of wedges, to exactly

that of the corresponding FRW-solution spacelike slices.

Calculations follow, for anyone interested in the grungy details ...

If a deficit angle A originates around a particle of velocity v on the

unit hyperboloid, then the amount of the azimuthal coordinate that this

steals further out at velocity w is, to first order in A:

A (w-v) / ( w sqrt(1-v^2) )

Rephrasing this in terms of geodesic distances along the unit hyperboloid

from the "pole" at (1,0,0), if the distances are r for v and q for w, we

get:

A (cosh(q) - sinh(q)/tanh(r))

To find T(r), the total angular deficit at distance r, we need to

integrate the deficit angles for all the matter out to r, weighted by

this adjustment factor. We can't actually know the amount of matter at

distance q without knowing the circumference of a circle at distance q

... which depends on the angular deficit. This leads to an integral

equation, but we don't need to solve it from first principles, because

the guess that the geometry remains hyperbolic but just changes radius

turns out to be correct.

On a hyperboloid of radius a, the circumference of a circle of radius r

is:

c_a(r) = 2pi a sinh(r/a)

On the unit hyperboloid with a deficit angle T(r), the circumference is:

c_{1,d}(r) = (2pi - T(r)) sinh(r)

If the deficit angle T(r) is to mimic a change of hyperboloid radius from

1 to a, making these two circumference formulas equal, we must have:

T(r) = 2pi (1 - a sinh(r/a) / sinh(r) )

If we integrate a matter distribution based on a constant density rho, we

get:

T(r) = integral_{0,r} 8pi rho c_a(q) (cosh(q) - sinh(q)/tanh(r)) dq

If we evaluate this, then put a=sqrt(1+2C), rho=C/(4pi(1+2C)) -- where C

is a constant due to conservation of mass, discussed in my previous post

on the FRW solutions -- then these two ways of computing T(r) are in

perfect agreement.

Of course, although our particle cloud is homogeneous on the FRW

spacelike slices, it won't be homogeneous on the *uncut* hyperboloids in

Minkowski spacetime.

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