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Reading comprehension

  1. Apr 9, 2004 #1
    Now, in a recent thread, I said:
    One clever response to this was:
    As you can see, the first post states that one death it too many. The second complains that "People aren't numbers! You're cruel!" Now, the second post makes no sense, since the first post mentions not only an aversion to any such deaths, but also the exposure to many books about the subject. The second post also complains of "bashing America", which I'm sure I've never done.

    Reading comprehension, people. I've had this problem before. There are users who simply can't read, or don't know what they themselves are saying. Thus, ages ago, I provided this thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=12028

    However, not all reading and comprehension problems are associated with geography and politics. So I'll be a bit more general here. I'll just explain a few basic principles which may assist people in their reading and understanding.

    Now watch closely, and try to learn something.

    If a person says "Life good. Death bad.", it does not mean they like death, murder, massacres, et cetera. It means they like life, and think death is bad.

    If a person says "I think chocolate tastes better than strawberry", it means they prefer chocolate to strawberry, rather than the other way around.

    If someone says I dislike that person"", it does not mean they dislike all people. Saying they do would be what is known as a Straw Man: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

    If someone says "I dislike that law", it does not mean they dislike the people where that law was instituted. Saying they do would be what is known as a Straw Man: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

    If someone says "I dislike that government", it does not mean they dislike the people where that government rules. Saying they do would be what is known as a Straw Man: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

    If someone says "I'm not sure precisely how many people the USA military bombed and killed in Baghdad", it does not mean the person doesn't care about the people of Baghdad. It only means what it says, that the person is unsure of the numbers involved. Nor does it display any reason for the uncertainty, unless also stated.

    Now, for further education, which is quite sorely needed here, please read the following webpages and try to learn some of the basic requirements for functional communication.

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
    http://www.fallacyfiles.org/

    PS: If I come across as just a tad condescending, well, as with the Defintions thread, it's only because clear and basic explanations are required.
     
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  3. Apr 9, 2004 #2
    I don't know who you are or where this original conversation took place, but right away I wish you were a dead aborigine.
    Nobody likes a whiner.
    Just a personal opinion.
     
  4. Apr 9, 2004 #3
    Even though you threatened to kill the aborigine, you shouldn't make the mistake of using this to discredit the validity of his whining about another's whining, or you may be committing the fallacy: Ad Hominem:
    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
     
  5. Apr 10, 2004 #4
    Let me commit a logical fallacy: And a 1 And a 2 And a 3 Thread close!
     
  6. Apr 10, 2004 #5
    I have to agree with Adam. There is a very high percentage of people at PF who can neither understand what other people have written, nor articulate what they, themselves, mean to say. It leads to alot of unnecessary arguments.
     
  7. Apr 10, 2004 #6

    jimmy p

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    firgle nurgle franzen ook???
     
  8. Apr 10, 2004 #7
    well said my man, well said indeed
     
  9. Apr 10, 2004 #8
    Squiggiferous STERMATITE!!!! Spekyamelly fhaetwertrod, (OJOPLEMMER!!!) plastriballinom!!!
     
  10. Apr 10, 2004 #9

    jimmy p

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    Oh, you speak iroamdofandgane too???
     
  11. Apr 10, 2004 #10
    Hell no. I couldn't understand a word you wrote. That is why I argued back in the Zoobonic language.
     
  12. Apr 10, 2004 #11
    I think I hear a bit of an accent. You must be from Eastern Liptomasinktropia.
    I was born in Central Liptomasinktropia, but moved to Poldirrringtoriton. "Go Rulitatopoers!!"
     
  13. Apr 10, 2004 #12

    jimmy p

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    *blush* :tongue: I thought you would guess....must be the way a pronounce my "ytesvshcye's"
     
  14. Apr 10, 2004 #13

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    Yeah, I can never understand French people either..
     
  15. Apr 10, 2004 #14
    lol, it's a dead give away everytime. Know what I miss most about home? The morning national anthem goryntiter.
    Oh Liptomasinktropia
    My gu, my ru, my eychknatisingtrosinoq
    erktopylman to all!
    *sniff* forever will we flem
    *sniff* in all your umretumakluk sniff
    I miss my homeland
     
  16. Apr 10, 2004 #15

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    There's a difference??? No wonder i got beaten up when ordering a couple of Bgirnlozats....
     
  17. Apr 10, 2004 #16

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    LMAO, oh Monique, you can be SO cruel... but at least you are speaking sense...

    (ooh, that reminds me, should be going to Amsterdam in September...WOOT WOOT!!!)
     
  18. Apr 10, 2004 #17
    lol, good thing you didn't ask for a side of vinklequers.
     
  19. Apr 10, 2004 #18

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    haha, no one remembers the second verse to "goryntiter" yes, i agree, being so far from Liptomasinktropia can be SO hard.. i really do miss eating "jhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhkatnasjhjhjh"
     
  20. Apr 10, 2004 #19

    Monique

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    in SEPTEMBER !? better bring a full rainsuit and enough umbrella's to spare :rolleyes: (infact, the weather won't be that bad.. sometimes the sun shines :cool:)
     
  21. Apr 10, 2004 #20

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    as a matter of fact that is why i had my leg broken in 3 places.... no no, that is cos i ordered "VANKlequers"
     
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