Red Shift: Questions About Light & Big Bang

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea of the big bang being cyclical and the universe constantly expanding and contracting. While some points are raised, it is not supported by the current understanding of the expansion of the universe. The possibility of the expansion reversing in the far future is mentioned, but it is not likely based on observable evidence. The reliance on observable data is emphasized when making theories and models using science.
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This might be obvious but i was listening to someone talk about how he believes the big bang is cyclical and the universe is constantly expanding and contracting. now i don't believe this but one of the points he raised was (and i know it doesn't support his argument) we don't know if galaxies are still moving away from us since the light we see from an object a million light years away takes a million years to reach us, we may see it red shifted now but it could be coming towards us but the light wouldn't be blue shifted until a million years after it started to move towards us. Is this correct?
 
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gway22 said:
This might be obvious but i was listening to someone talk about how he believes the big bang is cyclical and the universe is constantly expanding and contracting. now i don't believe this but one of the points he raised was (and i know it doesn't support his argument) we don't know if galaxies are still moving away from us since the light we see from an object a million light years away takes a million years to reach us, we may see it red shifted now but it could be coming towards us but the light wouldn't be blue shifted until a million years after it started to move towards us. Is this correct?
As the expansion of the universe in recent years has been speeding up instead of slowing down, it really isn't reasonable to suggest that this trend has suddenly reversed itself in the (comparatively) small amount of time it has taken the light to reach us from the relatively nearby universe.

Thinking our universe has already started to collapse would really be akin to thinking that the Sun might not be there any longer because the light from the Sun takes around seven minutes to get to us: the Sun might have suddenly rocketed off, away from the rest of the Solar System, leaving the planets to fly off in its wake. There's basically no way this can happen.

Might the acceleration of the expansion reverse itself at some time in the far future, however? Well, it's conceivable. But it doesn't seem likely. it would require that the dark energy starts, for some unknown reason, behaving very differently from what it's done in the past. It might be possible to come up with a speculative model of dark energy where this happens, but it certainly isn't easy.
 
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The Sun could have it's gravity magically turn off and we wouldn't know about it yet. That doesn't mean it is likely. The universe could very well slow down and reverse in the future, but currently it simply doesn't look that way, it looks like the opposite. When making theories and models using science we MUST rely on things that are observable, not things that we would like to happen.
 

1. What is red shift?

Red shift is a phenomenon in which the wavelengths of light from distant objects appear to be stretched towards the red end of the spectrum. This is caused by the expansion of the universe, which affects the light as it travels towards us.

2. How does red shift support the Big Bang theory?

Red shift is one of the key pieces of evidence that supports the Big Bang theory. The fact that most galaxies exhibit red shift suggests that the universe is expanding, which aligns with the idea that the universe began as a single point and has been expanding ever since.

3. Can red shift be observed in objects within our own galaxy?

Yes, red shift can be observed in objects within our own galaxy, such as stars, nebulae, and even our own Sun. However, the red shift is much smaller and more difficult to detect in these objects compared to those in distant galaxies.

4. Does red shift only occur with visible light?

No, red shift can also occur with other forms of electromagnetic radiation, such as radio waves, microwaves, and X-rays. In fact, the discovery of red shift in radio waves was one of the first pieces of evidence for the Big Bang theory.

5. Can red shift be used to measure the age of the universe?

Yes, red shift can be used to estimate the age of the universe. By measuring the amount of red shift in light from distant galaxies, scientists can determine how much the universe has expanded since the light was emitted. This information, combined with other data, can help us estimate the age of the universe.

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