# Related rates and sand

1. Oct 8, 2005

### bard

Sand is falling onto a cone-shaped pile at the rate of 9pi cubic feet per minute. the diameter of the base is always 3 times the height of the cone. At what rate is the height of the pile changing when the pile is 12 feet high.

work:

dV/dt=+9 ft^3/min

d=3h then r=3h/2 dr/dt=(3/2) dH/dt

Find dH/dt when h=12 ft. which means r=18 ft

V=pi(r)^2h/3

dV/dt=(pi/3)(r^2*dh/dt+h*2r*(3/2)dH/dt)

9pi ft^3/min=(pi/3)(r^2*dh/dt+h*2r*(3/2)dH/dt)

would this be the correct way to find the answer and get dH/dt i get 27/792 ft/min is this correct?

2. Oct 8, 2005

### mezarashi

You nearly have it right. However if you have two variables r and h, when differentiating you would've needed to have a dr/dt as well, since r is also a function of t. However, to make things easier, you can sub in 2r = d = 3h.

V = 1/3(base)(height)
V = pi/12(diameter^2)(height)
V = pi/12(9height^2)(height)
V = 9pi/12(height^3)

Now you can easily differentiate both V and h with respect to time.