Relation between lux and W/m^2

In summary,-Watts measure power, while lumens measure the response of the eye to that power.-1 lux is 1 lumen per m2-1 lumen is 1 candela . steradian-1 candela is equivalent to ##\frac{1}{683}## watt per steradian of green light (555nm)-The validity of any of these measurements is questionable.
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I posted this in anther forum but I think it might be better to post it here.

I was wondering if anyone could help me understand the conversion between lux and W/m2 with relation to luminous efficacy (lm/W).

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It's not clear where your difficulty lies. Do you understand the relationship between lux and lumens?
Watts measure power, while lumens measure the response of the eye to that power. This response will depend on the wavelengths involved.
 
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I'm no expert on this, but as I understand it
1 Lux is 1 Lumen per m2
1 Lumen is 1 Candela . Steradian
1 Candela is equivalent to ##\frac{1}{683}## watt per steradian of green light (555nm)

So 1 lux is ##\frac{1}{683}## watt/m2 for that green light, but this gets a bit complicated, because the definition of the candela in watts is at a specific frequency. The lumen weights different frequencies according to their visual effect (sensitivity of the eye), so other colours need greater powers.
A source radiating a power of one watt of light in the color for which the eye is most efficient (a wavelength of 555 nm, in the green region of the optical spectrum) has luminous flux of 683 lumens. So a lumen represents at least 1/683 watts of visible light power, depending on the spectral distribution. (from WikiP - Lumen)

I think this article (Energy Efficiency of LEDs) might give you the sort of info you need. It explains the intricacies of luminous efficacy (both sorts) and gives examples of the sort of data you're interested in.
 
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I got asked how to convert lux to W/m2, and how it relates to luminous efficacy (lm/W). I didn't think you could convert lux to W/m2, hence my confusion.

It's related to a solar energy class. I think @Merlin3189's reply was what I was looking for though.
 
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I got asked how to convert lux to W/m2, and how it relates to luminous efficacy (lm/W). I didn't think you could convert lux to W/m2, hence my confusion.
Ok. If you had written that in the first place I would have replied lm/W=(lm/m2)/(W/m2).
 
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Haruspex is right of course. That's what makes light such a messy business.
Lux, lumen and candela all refer to the effect of light on an eye, which does not have a simple relation to its power.

"I didn't think you could convert lux to W/m2, ..." and it is indeed a dubious matter, because lights of equal lux might (probably would) have different W/m2 values.
But you can calculate corresponding values for a given light source. If the power in each frequency step is multiplied by "the" eye's sensitivity at that frequency, the sum of these divided by 683W will tell you the lux value of that light.
So two sources emitting the same power in the visible spectrum can have different luminance because their spectral distributions are different. For example a daylight and warm light source might emit the same power in visible light, but have different luminance.

What the validity is of any of these measurements, I wonder. I think a 5W, 395 lumen daylight LED looks brighter than a 5W, 370 lumen warm white LED, but they're different colours as well. So if I tried to compare them with a Bunsen or Joly photometer, I would never get a point where they were indistinguishable.
The ubiquitous electronic photometers used to measure luminance now depend on filters to correct the spectral response of silicon sensors or use CdS sensors, which can be similar to "the" eye's sensitivity (and can of course be further corrected by filters.) Their measurements should be impartial, though comments about filter optimisation for different light sources, makes me wonder just how well matched they are.
 

Related to Relation between lux and W/m^2

What is the definition of lux?

Lux is a unit of measurement for illuminance, or the amount of light that falls on a surface. It is equal to one lumen per square meter.

What is the definition of W/m^2?

W/m^2 is a unit of measurement for irradiance, or the amount of power per unit area. It is equal to one watt per square meter.

What is the relationship between lux and W/m^2?

The relationship between lux and W/m^2 depends on the light source and the distance from the source. In general, a higher lux value indicates a higher W/m^2 value, but the two units are not directly interchangeable.

How do you convert lux to W/m^2?

To convert lux to W/m^2, you need to know the distance from the light source and the luminous efficacy of the light source. You can then use the formula W/m^2 = (lux * distance^2) / luminous efficacy.

Why is it important to understand the relationship between lux and W/m^2?

Understanding the relationship between lux and W/m^2 is important for accurately measuring and evaluating lighting conditions. It can also help with energy efficiency and selecting the appropriate light source for a given application.

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