Relationship between the Volume of a balloon and the time it takes to deflate

In summary, the speaker conducted balloon hovercraft experiments to find the relationship between the volume of a balloon and the time it takes for the hovercraft to hover. They plotted a graph and achieved an exponential trend, and now they are looking for a formula to find the proportionality between volume and time. They also provide tips for fitting an equation to the data and suggest adding additional data points for better accuracy. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the importance of experimentation and encourages others to have fun with physics.
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I would like to ask a question on whether there is a proportionality between volume of a balloon, and the time it takes to deflate.
I have conducted several balloon hovercraft experiments. I need to find the relationship between the amount of air pumped into the balloon and how long the hovercraft hovers. The balloon is tied on a sport bottle cap, with an acrylic disc as its base. The cap is glued onto the disc.
I have plotted such a graph, with volume on the x-axis and time of flight on the other. I have achievement a seemingly exponential trend. I would like to know if there is a formula that can find my proportionality of the relationship between volume and how long the it takes for the balloon to deflate (the hovercraft to float).
Thank you.

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Quentin_Phys said:
I would like to ask a question on whether there is a proportionality between volume of a balloon, and the time it takes to deflate.
I have conducted several balloon hovercraft experiments. I need to find the relationship between the amount of air pumped into the balloon and how long the hovercraft hovers. The balloon is tied on a sport bottle cap, with an acrylic disc as its base. The cap is glued onto the disc.
I have plotted such a graph, with volume on the x-axis and time of flight on the other. I have achievement a seemingly exponential trend. I would like to know if there is a formula that can find my proportionality of the relationship between volume and how long the it takes for the balloon to deflate (the hovercraft to float).
Thank you.

A theorectical model would be interesting, but your experimental data is the real thing and trumps any hypothetical model!
 
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You can fit an equation to your data, but keep in mind that the equation will not have a theoretical basis. It will just be an empirical curve fit. Which is perfectly fine for a high school student. If you were a grad student, we would expect more.

Here's how to fit an equation to your data using a spreadsheet. Start with the volume in Column A, and the time in Column B. Then decide the form of the equation. Some possibilities:

1) Linear: y = m*x + b, or time = m * volume + b (a constant)
2) Quadratic: y = C * x^2, where C is a constant and x is volume
3) Power function: y = C * x^n, where C is a constant and n is another constant

Column C will the estimated time from your equation. As an example of how to do Form 1 (linear): (cell C1) =A1 * $F$1 + $F$2, where m is in cell F1 and b is in cell F2. Put some random numbers into cells F1 and F2.

Column D will be the squares of the errors. This is the difference between the measured time and the time from your equation, with that difference squared. For Cell D1: = (B1 - C1)^2.

Under the bottom of Column D, put the sum of the squared errors: This is the sum of squares of your errors. I label this cell as SSErr.

Now create a chart showing your data, and the results of your equation.

Next, start adjusting the numbers in Cells F1 and F2 to make the SSErr as small as possible. Your spreadsheet may have a solver that will do this automagically, but it's good practice to to do manually at least once. When you get the SSErr as small as possible, your equation should be the best possible fit to the data. If the best fit is not good enough, and a linear equation will have obvious deficiencies, then look at a different form of equation. A quadratic equation should better fit the data than a linear equation. It will look better on the plot, and the SSErr will be less. Keep going until your equation fits the data "good enough" or until you run out of ambition.

Try adding a set of points at 0, 0 on the grounds that zero volume equals zero time, and see what effect that has on your results. Experiment, and have fun.

BTW, if you measure balloon pressure vs volume, you will find that it is nonlinear. This makes it very difficult to find a theoretical equation for time vs volume. Don't worry about, you have a good enough project fitting an equation to your data.

And, good job on making your measurements. Your data has very little scatter. One last note: It's experimental data, not theoretical data.
 
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was trying to find more topic to play physics with my toddler and love this balloon topic ;)
i know he is a bit young... ;)
can't blame me for having fun and taking care of him.
 
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To do this calculation properly (from first principles), you would need to first measure the 2 dimensional stress-strain behavior of a sheet of the balloon material. You could then formulate a model involving the the stresses and strains in the balloon membrane and the ideal gas behavior of the gas inside the balloon.
 
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sassyinpink said:
was trying to find more topic to play physics with my toddler and love this balloon topic ;)
i know he is a bit young... ;)
can't blame me for having fun and taking care of him.
There are loads of affordable scientific toys available these days. Water rockets, growing crystals, cartesian divers - the list goes on. Then there are a thousand simple electrical circuits that you can build when he's a bit older.
 

1. How does the volume of a balloon affect the time it takes to deflate?

The volume of a balloon has a direct impact on the time it takes to deflate. As the volume of the balloon decreases, the air molecules inside become more compact and have less space to move around. This results in a slower rate of deflation.

2. Is there a specific equation that relates the volume of a balloon to the time it takes to deflate?

Yes, there is an equation known as Boyle's Law that describes the relationship between the volume and pressure of a gas. This law states that as the volume of a gas decreases, the pressure increases. Therefore, as a balloon deflates and its volume decreases, the pressure inside increases, causing a slower rate of deflation.

3. How does the material of the balloon affect its deflation time?

The material of the balloon can also play a role in its deflation time. Balloons made of thicker and less elastic materials, such as rubber, will take longer to deflate compared to balloons made of thinner and more elastic materials, such as latex. This is because the thicker material creates more resistance to the air molecules trying to escape.

4. Does the temperature of the air inside the balloon affect its deflation time?

Yes, the temperature of the air inside the balloon can impact its deflation time. As the temperature increases, the air molecules inside the balloon become more energetic and move around faster, resulting in a quicker deflation time. On the other hand, colder temperatures can slow down the movement of the air molecules and prolong the deflation process.

5. How does the altitude or air pressure affect the deflation time of a balloon?

The altitude or air pressure can also affect the deflation time of a balloon. At higher altitudes or lower air pressures, the air molecules inside the balloon have less resistance to escape, causing a faster deflation time. This is because the external pressure on the balloon is lower, allowing the air molecules to escape more easily.

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