Relativistic Centre of Momentum Frame

In summary, the question asks for the speed of S' frame in terms of c, where a particle of mass m with speed 0.546c in inertial frame S collides with an identical particle at rest in S. Using special relativity and the Einstein velocity addition formulas, the speed of S' is found to be 0.297c.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m ha speed 0.546c relative to inertial frame S. The particle collides with an identical particle at rest in the inertial frame S. Relative to S and in terms of c, what is the speed of S' in which the total momentum of these particles is 0.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I can see that in the S' frame, Pa = - Pb so that means that Va = - Vb since both masses are equal. But I just can't get my head around why i need to use special relativity because everything is in reference to the S frame anyway.
 
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xoxomae said:
that means that Va = - Vb
That's correct, but it doesn't answer the question. They want you to tell them the value of Va. THe naïve non-relativistic answer is that it's half of 0.546c, ie 0.273c but that answer is wrong because it doesn't allow for the fact that, if you choose a frame that has velocity 0.273c relative to the first one, the velocities of the two particles will NOT be 0.273c and -0.273c respectively, because of the relativistic corrections.
 
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Pa=-Pb and Va=-Vb are not in S.
 
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S' frame is moving at a velocity v w.r.t S frame.
Let velocity of Particle 1 = U1 in S frame and particle 2 = U2 in S frame therefore Particle 1 = U1' and particle 2 = U2' in S' Frame
Since particle 2 is at rest in S frame, its velocity in S' frame is equal to the velocity of the S' frame relative to S i.e. v=u2'
So in a centre of momentum frame u2'= - u1' = v

Using Einstein velocity addition formulas and setting c to 1

u2' = ( u2 - v ) / (1-v/c) = v

When solved gives v = 0.297c

Does this seem right?
 
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Right.
 

What is the Relativistic Centre of Momentum Frame?

The Relativistic Centre of Momentum (RCM) frame is a frame of reference in which the total momentum of a system of particles is equal to zero. It takes into account the relativistic effects of high speeds and is used to simplify calculations in situations where the total momentum of a system is important.

Why is the RCM frame important in physics?

The RCM frame allows scientists to simplify calculations and make predictions about the behavior of a system of particles at high speeds. It also helps to understand the effects of relativity on the momentum of a system, which is crucial in fields such as astrophysics and particle physics.

How is the RCM frame different from other frames of reference?

In the RCM frame, the total momentum of a system is equal to zero, while in other frames of reference the total momentum can have a non-zero value. The RCM frame takes into account the effects of relativity and is used specifically for systems of particles with high speeds.

What is the formula for calculating the RCM frame?

The formula for calculating the RCM frame is:
RCM = (m1v1 + m2v2 + ... + mNvN) / (m1 + m2 + ... + mN),
where m is the mass of each particle and v is its velocity.

Can the RCM frame be applied to any system of particles?

Yes, the RCM frame can be applied to any system of particles, regardless of the number of particles or their masses. It is particularly useful for systems with high speeds, as it takes into account the relativistic effects on momentum.

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