Religion vs. team spirit

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Are you religious? Do you like team sports and activities?

  • I am religious, I prefer team sports and activities to individual sports and activities

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • I am religious, I prefer individual sports and activities to team sports and activities

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • I am NOT religious, I prefer team sports and activities to individual sports and activities

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • I am NOT religious, I prefer individual sports and activities to team sports and activities

    Votes: 11 55.0%

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Are you religious? Do you like being part of a team? I have a hypothesis on this, take the poll and give me some data. Data data data!
 

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pattylou said:
Are you religious? Do you like being part of a team? I have a hypothesis on this, take the poll and give me some data. Data data data!
Do you think a poll at PF is a random sample?
 
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Townsend said:
Do you think a poll at PF is a random sample?
No.

Do you think this is the only place I am gathering data? :tongue2:
 
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What about people that don't play sports and don't like being part of teams?
 
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Would you like out thoughts, or just the data, data, data!?
 
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I feel like a guinne pig
 
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I'm not sure how to answer. I dislike most sports, team or individual. I'm not into the competitiveness of playing against an opponent (team or individual). There are a lot of things I like to just do on my own, and I need a certain amount of individual quiet time to keep from getting edgy, but then, I also think some thing are best done as a team and then it's important to really function as a team and not a bunch of individuals all getting in each other's way as they all try to do the same thing without any coordination.

Oh, and I'm not religious, as if that's going to matter given my inability to give a clear answer on any of the rest of the question.
 
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Evo said:
What about people that don't play sports and don't like being part of teams?
or people that like team sports but like individual activites. I was kinda leaning towards that idea until decided liking team both is a bit more accurate.

Also, if this is about "team spirit", Its not the reason I like team sports and activites. I like team sports because you can play a "role" and theres more strategy to those things normally and room for error.
 
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Pengwuino said:
or people that like team sports but like individual activites. I was kinda leaning towards that idea until decided liking team both is a bit more accurate.

Also, if this is about "team spirit", Its not the reason I like team sports and activites. I like team sports because you can play a "role" and theres more strategy to those things normally and room for error.
Yeah I am with you on that.

I like team sports because I think sports are supposed to be fun, and playing games by yourself is not fun at all, imo. I like having some team members around to bs with and have some more fun. Although, I would like to start playing tennis. Also, the role aspect is cool too.

The only group activities I like in school are the ones that are not worth any part of my grade :smile:
 
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If you don't like sports or activities, think about lab partners.

Do you like having them, or would you rather do the work on your own?

And yes, we're *all* guinea pigs, aren't we? :biggrin: :devil:
 
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pattylou said:
No.

Do you think this is the only place I am gathering data? :tongue2:
Well, yeah...I admit it, that is what I thought. :blushing:
 
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I rarely like "teams" at work because there is usually one, maybe two people that know what they're doing and the rest of the group are a burden.
 
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pattylou said:
If you don't like sports or activities, think about lab partners.

Do you like having them, or would you rather do the work on your own?
It depends on what needs doing. If I CAN do the work on my own, I will...why drag in more people to do something I can do myself, but if I can't do it on my own, or a team would make it more efficient, I work as a team. For example, with my research, if I need to do some immunocytochemistry in the lab or take a few blood samples from a sheep, I can do that on my own and it would make no sense to ask other people to do it for me and just introduce another potential source of variation. But, when we're doing surgery on a sheep or need to run an experiment all night, we absolutely MUST have a team effort. I like both. I take the lead on my experiments, and can play the part of the team player when helping with someone else's experiment. I also can equally enjoy curling up with a book or doing a jigsaw puzzle in peace and quiet as I can enjoy entertaining a group of friends for dinner, or to play games as a group...as teams or individuals.
 
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Evo said:
I rarely like "teams" at work because there is usually one, maybe two people that know what they're doing and the rest of the group are a burden.
I find that the effectiveness and enjoyability of working on a team is highly dependent on the team leader. If they put together a good team and really ensure the members work together as a team and are properly trained and motivated, it can be great to be a part of a team, but if the team leader gathers a bad group of people and doesn't make sure everyone on the team can actually do the jobs they need to do, or doesn't know how to motivate the team, then you run into those people who just drag the team down and leave you wanting to just club them over the head and do it all yourself.
 
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Moonbear said:
It depends on what needs doing. If I CAN do the work on my own, I will...why drag in more people to do something I can do myself, but if I can't do it on my own, or a team would make it more efficient, I work as a team. For example, with my research, if I need to do some immunocytochemistry in the lab or take a few blood samples from a sheep, I can do that on my own and it would make no sense to ask other people to do it for me and just introduce another potential source of variation. But, when we're doing surgery on a sheep or need to run an experiment all night, we absolutely MUST have a team effort. I like both. I take the lead on my experiments, and can play the part of the team player when helping with someone else's experiment. I also can equally enjoy curling up with a book or doing a jigsaw puzzle in peace and quiet as I can enjoy entertaining a group of friends for dinner, or to play games as a group...as teams or individuals.
Yeah I think most people do immunocytochemistry by themselves :confused: :smile:
 
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Patty, I don't play sports. I'm a GEEK. I like sitting down with a text book on globalization when I go to bed.
 
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Well, Smurf, you'd fall into group number four then.
 
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how is that group four? Group four clearly states "I prefer individual sports and activities to team sports and activities"

I prefer not doing sports or activities at all.
 
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And when you don't do them *at all* you are with yourself.

(iow given a choice between bowling on a bowling league, and bowling by yourself, which would you choose? staying home is not an option.)
 
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Moonbear said:
I find that the effectiveness and enjoyability of working on a team is highly dependent on the team leader. If they put together a good team and really ensure the members work together as a team and are properly trained and motivated, it can be great to be a part of a team, but if the team leader gathers a bad group of people and doesn't make sure everyone on the team can actually do the jobs they need to do, or doesn't know how to motivate the team, then you run into those people who just drag the team down and leave you wanting to just club them over the head and do it all yourself.
In my environment there are no team leaders. It's groups formed of various specialists, all peers. If you get a loser assigned to work with you, it sucks. They try to deal everyone a fair share of losers, but the losers heavily outnumber the people that know what they're doing.
 
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Also, see the alternative description for the poll, using the notion of lab partners, somewhere around post #10 on this thread.
 
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pattylou said:
And when you don't do them *at all* you are with yourself.
Am I though? AM I? Playing sports and activities is not the only way to spend time with people. I'm quite partial to sitting down with my good friend Matt and discussing whatever philosophical issue someone made an issue of on PF that day.

I havn't had a lab since grade 11.
 
  • #23
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Alright, ornery guy, make your best choice then. I can't help you find it, you know it in your heart.
 
  • #24
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I went ahead and voted for 4. People that are religious would tend to favor gathering in large groups of like minded people. People that aren't religious don't need to be part of the herd. But sports brings out competitiveness. Being part of a team could just mean that you want a better chance of winning and have nothing to do with associating with a group. So I'm not sure what Pattylou is looking for because of the emphasis on sports as opposed to social support.
 
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I voted three. Purely because number 4 was outnumbering everyone else by a long shot.
 

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