Republicans flip-flopping on their position about Kerry.

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In summary, Republicans often accuse Kerry of being a flip-flopper and too liberal. However, they also claim that he is the most liberal member of the Senate and has extreme liberal convictions. This seems contradictory, as being consistently liberal and holding extreme beliefs would not align with being a flip-flopper. It is possible that Republicans are referring to different aspects of Kerry's character and beliefs, but it is ultimately confusing and contradictory.
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You'll often hear Republicans say that Kerry flip-flops, that he tries to be on both sides of every issue, wants to please everyone etc. You'll also hear Republicans accusing Kerry of being waaaaaaaaaaaay too liberal, and infact, he was voted most liberal member of the Senate by some group.

If you're the most liberal in terms of your senate voting record, than that means you took liberal stances more often than anyone else, more often than Ted Kennedy or Hillary Clinton, right? And if you're just an extreme liberal in general, that must mean that you take more liberal stances on more issues, more often than anyone else, or at least more often than most Americans people, right?

So to get the title of "most liberal", or "extreme liberal", it would seem that someone would need to have a pretty consistant and extreme liberal character and convictions, right?

Here's where I get lost:

Republicans will tell you ad-nauseum that Kerry is too liberal to be President, more liberal than average americans etc. However, they also want you to believe that Kerry is a flip-flopper, and that he has no real moral core, will do whatever is popular etc.

If anyone else's brain is near exploding, you're not alone.

How on Earth can someone be the most liberal member of the senate, have liberal convictions that are waaaaaay more extreme than your average American, and simeltaneously be on both sides of every issue and have no moral core?
 
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Are you talking about the same group of Republicans?
 
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Peace of cake, wasteofo2 - Kerry doesn't really flip-flop (imo) or have no opinions, he just plays all sides at the same time. By speaking against the war on terror spending bill (for example), then voting in favor of it, it can truly be said that he voted conservatively while thinking liberally.
 
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Are you talking about the same group of Republicans?
Yes I am indeed. I doubt you'll be able to listen to one broadcast of Sean Hannity's or Rush Limbaugh's show without hearing both accusations thrown at Kerry. And forget about pundits, the Bush campaign for re-election has used both attacks on Kerry repetitively.
 
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russ_watters said:
Peace of cake, wasteofo2 - Kerry doesn't really flip-flop (imo) or have no opinions, he just plays all sides at the same time. By speaking against the war on terror spending bill (for example), then voting in favor of it, it can truly be said that he voted conservatively while thinking liberally.

It goes without saying that Kerry can't be both the things that he's been accused of by the Bush campaign. I'm a bit confused by your reasoning, do you think that Kerry is neither a flip-flopper or an extreme liberal?
 
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Maybe in one instance they are talking about his voting record, and in the other instance they are talking about his personal beliefs. I guess you just have to ask them.
 

1. Why do Republicans constantly change their stance on Kerry?

There are a few reasons why Republicans may appear to flip-flop on their position about Kerry. One possibility is that as political landscapes change, politicians may adjust their opinions and positions in order to align with the beliefs of their party or constituents. Additionally, politicians may also change their stance on certain issues as new information or evidence is presented. Lastly, it's important to note that not all Republicans have the same opinions and beliefs, so it's possible that what may seem like flip-flopping is simply a difference in individual perspectives.

2. How does this affect the credibility of the Republican party?

The perceived flip-flopping of Republicans on their stance about Kerry can certainly impact the credibility of the party. It can be seen as a lack of consistency and conviction in their beliefs, which may lead to a loss of trust from voters. However, it's important to remember that political parties are made up of individuals with varying opinions and beliefs, so it's not fair to paint the entire party as inconsistent based on the actions of a few.

3. Is there evidence of Republicans changing their stance on Kerry?

There have been instances where Republicans have changed their stance on Kerry. For example, during the 2004 presidential election, many Republicans criticized Kerry's military service and painted him as unfit to be commander-in-chief. However, in 2016, many Republicans praised Kerry for his work as Secretary of State under President Obama. Additionally, during Kerry's confirmation hearings for Secretary of State, several Republican senators who had previously criticized him during the 2004 election, spoke positively about him.

4. How do Democrats respond to these accusations of flip-flopping?

Democrats may point out that politicians on both sides of the aisle can change their stance on certain issues. They may also argue that it's important for politicians to be open to new information and willing to change their opinions as the political landscape evolves. Additionally, they may criticize Republicans for being hypocritical, as there have been instances where Republican politicians have also been accused of flip-flopping on issues.

5. Is flip-flopping a common occurrence in politics?

Flip-flopping, or changing one's stance on an issue, is not uncommon in politics. As mentioned earlier, political landscapes and information can change, leading to a change in opinions. Additionally, politicians may also change their stance in order to align with their party or appeal to voters. However, it's important for politicians to be transparent and explain their reasoning for changing their stance, in order to maintain credibility with voters.

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