Reversing the Order of Double Integrals

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In summary, the homework statement is incorrect. The first integral is not a number. When it is integrated, it will be a function of y. You will need to do two integrals, one with y from -1 to 0 and the other from 0 to 1. The graph should have been drawn more carefully.
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b]1. Homework Statement [/b]

Given Domain :[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]f(x,y)dydx
0[tex]\leq[/tex]x[tex]\leq[/tex]1
x-1[tex]\leq[/tex]y[tex]\leq[/tex]2-2x
reiterate the integrals so the order is reversed

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The Attempt at a Solution


not really sure how to complete,
[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]f(xy)dxdy
y+1[tex]\leq[/tex]x[tex]\leq[/tex](2-y)/2
-1[tex]\leq[/tex]y[tex]\leq[/tex]2

Is this correct?
 
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hils0005 said:
b]1. Homework Statement [/b]

Given Domain :[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]f(x,y)dydx
0[tex]\leq[/tex]x[tex]\leq[/tex]1
x-1[tex]\leq[/tex]y[tex]\leq[/tex]2-2x
reiterate the integrals so the order is reversed

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


not really sure how to complete,
[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]f(xy)dxdy
y+1[tex]\leq[/tex]x[tex]\leq[/tex](2-y)/2
-1[tex]\leq[/tex]y[tex]\leq[/tex]2
It should be obvious that it is not correct. The first integral is a number. This integral will, after integrating, be a function of y. In order to be a number, the limits of integration on the "outside" integeral, with respect to y, must be numbers, not functions of y.

Draw a picture! In the original "outside" integral, x ranges from 0 to -1. For each x, y ranges from x-1 up to 2- 2x. Those are straight lines and you should see that the area is a triangle with vertices (0, -1), (2, 0) and (0, 2).

Now look at it from the side. To cover that entire area, y needs to vary from -1 to 1: those will be the limits on the "outer", dy, integral. For each y, x varies form 0 up to x= a function of y, given by the line making the right boundary. It looks to me like you will need to separate that into two integrals: y form -1 to 0 and then from 0 to 1.
 
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I have the verticies of the triangle at (2,0), (1,0), and (0,-1)?

wouldn't that mean dy would range from -1 to 2?

the lower part of the triangle dy from -1 to 0, x goes from 0 to y+1
ther upper part, dy ranges from 0 to 2, x goes from 0 to (y-2)/2

do you put an addition sign in between the the two integrals?
 
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hils0005 said:
I have the verticies of the triangle at (2,0), (1,0), and (0,-1)?

wouldn't that mean dy would range from -1 to 2?

the lower part of the triangle dy from -1 to 0, x goes from 0 to y+1
ther upper part, dy ranges from 0 to 2, x goes from 0 to (y-2)/2

do you put an addition sign in between the the two integrals?
Then draw the graph more carefully. The two lines y= x- 1 and y= 2- 2x intersect at (1, 0). y= x-1 intersects x=0 at y= -1 and y= 2- 2x intersects x= 0 at y= 1. The vertices are, as I said, (0, -1), (0, 1), and (1, 0).
 
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HallsofIvy said:
...and y= 2- 2x intersects x= 0 at y= 1...

Really? :wink:
 

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