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arunbg said:Always chose intelligent topics. I particularly loved "The invisible man up in the sky" gig.
heres the link: http://www.rense.com/general69/obj.htm
arunbg said:Always chose intelligent topics. I particularly loved "The invisible man up in the sky" gig.
Moridin said:Westboro Baptist Church responds to Carlin's death.
[...] and fellow filth-monger Jerry Seinfeld.
moe darklight said:Seinfeld? a filth-monger?
Moridin said:Westboro Baptist Church responds to Carlin's death.
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Moridin said:Very true.
Moridin said:Westboro Baptist Church responds to Carlin's death.
Cyrus said:Is this the same cookie-sucker that pickets dead US soldiers funerals?
kaos said:Yup , same dude
Moridin said:Westboro Baptist Church responds to Carlin's death.
Cyrus said:Lets pray that Joe pesci straightens out this c***sucker, its amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.
edward said:If the idiot pickets Carlin's funeral he may find that George's friends are not as passive as the grieving parents of slain soldiers.
B. Elliott said:Cracking jokes is one thing, but most of the more 'serious' people that seem to be filled with hate and discrimination, are the religious fundamentalists themselves.
Ivan Seeking said:Yes, this has been my point about all of these types: They are antithetical to their own alleged philosophy. From my point of view, this guy has more in common with the Grand Wizard of the KKK, than Christian philosophy or beliefs. The essential message of Christinity is Love - love God, and love all other people, including your enemies. Any message that violates this message is, by definition, not a Christian message.
Ivan Seeking said:Yes, this has been my point about all of these types: They are antithetical to their own alleged philosophy. From my point of view, this guy has more in common with the Grand Wizard of the KKK, than he does Christian philosophy or beliefs. The essential message of Christinity is Love - love God, and love all other people, including your enemies. Any message to the contrary is by definition not a Christian message.
In very literal terms, many fundamentalists are in fact followers of the old Testament, which predates Christianity, and is, according to Christinity, null and void. So in spite of what they say to the contrary, their message does not meet the technical definition of Christianity. They are following the creed of Pre-Christians.
This is why, for example, as a Catholic kid, I wasn't taught that I would go to hell for shaving. And indeed, we see many well shaved Christians of all creeds.
Cyrus said:Ultimately though, then it becomes whose interpretation of religion is right. Yours, or mine? I say I am more christian than you. You say I am not a true christian. The argument is tautological.
Ivan Seeking said:Actually, from a technical pov, I don't think that is true. It may be true if a person defines religion by his own preferences, but there are specific concepts that are either accepted or not. In other words, there are a million arguments to be made about interpretations of scripture, but there are still logical boundaries within any doctrine. Beyond that you can call a religion whatever you want - Christianity, Islam, Hindu, or Voodoo - for that matter, but that doesn't make it so.
I was listening to a few interviews with Carlin, and one thing that came out is that he wasn't really against the idea of an afterlife - a continuation of some kind - it seems that he just objected to the traditional old man with a beard.
Something else caught my ear as I have made the same argument. Loosely quoted, he asked why it is that when some UFO believer talks, people tend to laugh, but when a religious person talks, people tend to act with reverence. Which is the more likely of the two; UFOs [ET vehicles] or God?
Cyrus said:Sure its true. Catholic or Christian. Now, both a basically the 'same thing' but a Catholic and a Christian DONT believe in the same things.
Ivan Seeking said:Frankly, you are arguing nonsense. Catholics are Christians. You don't know what you're talking about. But I will say no more as this has gone farther than was intended.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations