Can we still use the ratio test if the sequence of ratios diverges to infinity?

In summary, the ratio test and root test are two methods used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series with positive terms. The ratio test involves comparing the limit of the ratio of consecutive terms to a constant, c. If c<1, the series converges; if c>1, the series diverges; and if c=1, the test is inconclusive. The root test involves taking the limit of the kth root of the terms of the series, r. If r<1, the series converges; if r>1, the series diverges; and if r=1, the test is inconclusive. If the limit of the ratios or roots is ∞, the series is considered divergent.
  • #1
kingwinner
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Let ∑ak be a series with positive terms.
Ratio test:
Suppose ak+1/ak -> c.
If c<1, then ∑ak converges.
If c>1, then ∑ak diverges.
If c=1, the test is inconclusive.

What if ak+1/ak diverges (i.e. ak+1/ak->∞)? Do we count this as falling into the case c>1? Can we say whether ∑ak converges or not?

Root test:
Suppose limsup (ak)1/k = r.
If r<1, then ∑ak converges.
If r>1, then ∑ak diverges.
If r=1, the test is inconclusive.

What if limsup (ak)1/k = ∞? Do we count this as falling into the case r>1? Can we say whether ∑ak converges or not?


Thanks for clarifying!
 
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  • #2
Just unwind the definitions, and it should be clear.

First question: if [tex]a_{k+1}/a_k\to\infty[/tex], then for M as big as you like, there's some N such that [tex]a_{k+1}/a_k>M[/tex] for all k>N. That means that for k>N, we have [tex]|a_k|>M^{k-N}[/tex]. Clearly that's diverging.

Second question: if [tex]\text{lim sup }a_k^{1/n}=\infty[/tex], then for M and N as large as you'd like, there's a k>N with [tex]a_k^{1/k}>M[/tex], i.e. [tex]|a_k|>M^k[/tex]. Again, clearly divergent.
 
  • #3
So in the ratio test, the case c=∞ is allowed?

c=∞>1 => ∑ak diverges?
 
  • #4
kingwinner said:
So in the ratio test, the case c=∞ is allowed?

"The" ratio test requires that the sequence of ratios converges--it's right there in the definition you gave. If the sequence diverges to infinity, though, a simple modification of the argument yields the same result.

Whether that distinction is meaningful is up to you.
 

1. What is the difference between Root Test and Ratio Test?

The Root Test and Ratio Test are two different methods used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series. The Root Test is based on the nth root of a series, while the Ratio Test compares the terms of a series to see if they approach a limit.

2. How do you apply the Root Test?

To apply the Root Test, you take the nth root of the absolute value of each term in the series. If the resulting limit is less than 1, the series converges. If it is greater than 1, the series diverges. If it is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another test must be used.

3. What is the purpose of the Ratio Test?

The Ratio Test is used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series by comparing the terms to see if they approach a limit. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges. If it is greater than 1, the series diverges. If it is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another test must be used.

4. When should the Root Test be used instead of the Ratio Test?

The Root Test should be used when the terms of the series contain nth powers or roots. The Ratio Test should be used when the terms of the series contain factorials or exponentials.

5. Can the Root Test or Ratio Test be used to determine absolute convergence?

Yes, both the Root Test and Ratio Test can be used to determine absolute convergence. If the resulting limit is less than 1, the series is absolutely convergent. If it is greater than 1 or equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another test must be used to determine absolute convergence.

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