The Don has gone.
Gates is a good choice. Too bad it wasn't done sooner - like 3.5 years ago.
This the man fearless enough to go to war with one-fifth of an army, too courageous to heed dire warnings from his own generals, too tough to request extra armor for his soldiers. And he runs away from a few Democrats led by a woman. Makes you think.
Does this Congress have the will to bring articles of impeachment against Bush and Cheney? President Pelosi has a nice ring to it, and she's next in line.
That's a wonderful idea, in fact I thought of it first. My thread is here:
Reuters 13:24 ET, Wed 8 Nov 2006
Behind Rumsfeld's Fall: The Perils of Hubris
By MARK THOMPSON/WASHINGTON
While I agree the intent was correct, the execution stunk. Donny Boy blew it big time!
They lack sufficient body and vehicular armor to prevent injury and death. They did their jobs as best they could under the circumstances. The people in the Bush administration handicapped - ney abused - the military.
Well it's Bush lack of concern and lack of inquistiveness, and probably delusional thinking that allowed Rumsfeld to stay on.
Don's needs to go home and enjoy his $ millions and five houses.
Meanwhile more than 2800 US troops aren't returning and thousands more return with injury and questionable support from the administration.
Why a person with CIA background instead of military? Intel is obviously more important than ever before, but we already have a Director of National Intelligence. Since we still need to resolve things in Iraq, I would have expected someone with more experience dealing with the military.
I think this is the best day that I've had in six years. Tsu and I both noted that this morning we felt like kids on Christmas morning who couldn't wait to see what Santa brought.
Good point. Naming Colin Powell to be Defense Secretary would have been a smarter move, and it would have given Powell an opportunity to redeem himself after feeding the UN lies regarding the non-existent Iraq WMD. Powell is popular enough that if a Democrat succeeds Bush, he would probably be kept on in the post, especially if it looks like he's doing a god job trying to clean up Rummy's mess.
It's kind of strange timing to announce Rumsfeld's resignation the day after the election. I thought that day was normally reserved for defeated candidates to accept a plea bargain in whatever scandal was dogging their campaign.
You just made my list of all-time favorite quotes. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Long Overdue Departure for Rumsfeld
By JAMES CARNEY/WASHINGTON
The criticism is coming fast and furious.
Some background on Robert Gates:
Unfortunately this page has been vandalized. :grumpy:
Well, it was likely planned if the dems won as both red meat, and to avoid the sec of defense being on trial. There will be subpoenas.
Funny, that's the same sentiment expressed by my father.
Not until the new Congress takes office in January.
I would have expected them to wait at least until next week. The whole day looks like 'the surrender'. Rumsfeld's resignation. Hastert announcing he won't run for minority leader. The house is being cleaned immediately.
So who is Rumsfeld's replacement?
Some good comments about his past and some bad. Considering his work on the Iraq Study Group with another pragmatist from Bush 41's staff, hopefully Shane's comments are more relevant to today.
The second paragraph is quite relevant. I am counting on Gates listening to the military. Texas A&M has a largely ROTC program (Corps of Cadets), and I expect that to be a positive influence on Gates.
Why can't we vote for cabinet members?
I suppose I can admit that I wouldn't know how to vote for, so I can kind of see why it's a representative decision, but is there more to it?
The President picks his own cabinet members and then your representatives in Congress get to vet them, so you (theoretically) do have a say in their confirmation if you can accurately predict what your scum-sucking son of a b... er, Congressional representative is going to do when confronted by a very bad nominee. In practice, there is very little advise-and-consent going on at this level.
might this have to do with relevance of intelligence in the developing iran/korea situations?
Errr, are you sure about this? I heard on the radio that Gates was turned down by the largest vote ever for the CIA in regard to a position as (director?). (31 voted no, more no votes than any and every predecssor combined).
Also, that he put more spin on the Iran Contra scandal than Rums. He was lying to the public long before Rums.
Essentially, he was selected because he's loyal puppet time and time again.
I will link the site where I heard this later.
Here you go:
I'm not going to put the rest, you all can read or listen to it for yourself if you want to.
Sounds like more of the same to me.
:rofl: Isn't that like saying, "well he was a boy scout." Nice, yes, but irrelevant in terms of the bigger picture.
Apparently Germany wants to hold a trial for Rumsfeld for war crimes. Hell, why not. Torturing people and changing the laws to try and get away with it constitutes a war crime in my book.
Certainly there were better choices for CIA director, e.g. Sam Nunn would have been a much better choice.
The vote in 1991 was very policitized, as of course many votes are. The enmity between Reagan's and Bush's administrations and the Democrats in Congress was strong, particularly in the wake of Iran-Contra.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I wonder if Cheney will step down next?
Any USA people here that regret that Rumsfeld is no longer in position ? Just wondering...
Also, is Rumsfeld of German origin ? I just ask because his name is a common German name.
Separate names with a comma.