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  1. Aug 24, 2005 #1
    If anyone gets a chance to watch a news clip of the Speech Bush made in Idaho today, before a group of military personnel, check out the subliminal goodies in the background. The picture or mural behind Bush has a guy to Bushes left (as seen from the front)who is dark complected and has on sunglasses. At the end when Bush goes over to shake some hands a dark sinister looking person in a ski mask becomes apparent. For just a few seconds the entire mural can be seen. It is only then apparent that a group of U.S. soldiers are on the far left side of the mural. The blurry words freedom honor dignity are and superimposed in front of the mural.

    His speech was the same old hash of repeating "9/11" multiple times.

    Are the Bushies getting desperate or was my blood sugar too low again? :wink:
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  3. Aug 24, 2005 #2


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    I think your just getting paranoid.
  4. Aug 24, 2005 #3
    Lol apparenly you haven't seen it. :smile:
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  6. Aug 24, 2005 #5


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    All bloody paranoia!

    Whats that?!?! *Jumps behind his couch*.....

    did anyone see that monkey??????

    There out to get me!!!
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    lol you might wanna replace US history with the "past 15 years" or you're really not thinking when you post. I mean come on, FDR, the Cold War, how can you compare, pfff. Childsplay!
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    That can be easily quantified. Even analyzing just the speeches Bush is making now to defend the invasion of Iraq and the number of times he mentions 9-11 can be counted for example. The frequent number is a fact.
  9. Aug 24, 2005 #8
    Isn't this just your normal watered down sort of propaganda though? The sort of thing you see all the time from just about any politician? I think the main differance is that today the president can jump on TV any time he likes. That and the sheer number of news sources out there that are trying to make sure to have content for readers/viewers. So it's not so much intensity but quantity. I doubt many people except in their mania to paint Bush as the root of all evil would seriously compare his admins propaganda to that of the Cold War or any of the wars thast have happened in the last century.
  10. Aug 24, 2005 #9
    http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_us_16_sm.jpg [Broken]
    http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_us_26_sm.jpg [Broken]
    http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_us_49_sm.jpg [Broken]

    Trying to find more for Korea and Vietnam. From what I have seen before they are pretty bad so they may not be as popular and easily found.

    image tags don't seem to work anymore.
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  11. Aug 24, 2005 #10
    Just because he is paranoid...... that doesn't mean they are not out to get him!
  12. Aug 24, 2005 #11
    I thought it was one of his better press conferences. He had fewer Uh's than usual, although for a guy that just had 4 weeks of vacation he looked stressed, really showed his age. I wonder if Karl with his own problems has been neglecting poor George.
  13. Aug 24, 2005 #12
    Oh, no I feel a song comming on:

    Tim Cavanagh
    "99 Dead Baboons"
    (parody of "99 Red Balloons" by Nena)
    transcriber unknown

    Hey, have a lot of you heard the new song by Nena - "99 Red Balloons"?
    You know, I heard the German version of that song first, and I really
    liked it. But then I heard the English version, and I was really
    surprised to find that what she's singing in English and what she's
    singing in German are not even close. Uh, I ended up buying the
    record, and I listened very closely to the German version, and I've
    come up with a new English translation that I think is really much
    more accurate, much closer... I have to admit there are a couple of
    lines in this new English version that I'm not real sure about, but I
    think it's a much more accurate version. Now this is the new version,
    "99 Red Balloons".

    Hello Bobby my old friend.
    It's good to see you once again.
    How's your mother, how's your aunt?
    How's your father's skin diving suit?
    (That's one of the lines I'm not real sure about, but it goes something like

    I've got something you should see
    Back at my place; come with me.
    I've got some brand new furnishings,
    Plus 99 dead baboons

    99 dead baboons
    Sitting in my living room.
    Not too functional it seems,
    But quite a conversation piece.
    This one's Jake, that one's Dinah,
    There's big Ned in my recliner.
    No it's not a lazy boy.
    Can't you see it's a dead baboon?

    Dead baboons, dead baboons.
    Dead baboons, dead baboons.

    How they got here I'm not sure;
    Woke up one day, there they were.
    Luckily I've got a lease
    Allowing pets if they're deceased.
    I'm just thankful they're not apes,
    'Cuz apes would clash with the drapes.
    No more napkins at my parties -
    Wipe your hands on a dead baboon.

    Dead baboons, dead baboons.
    Dead baboons, dead baboons.

    Dead baboons are lots of fun;
    Playin' water balloons I've always won.
    You can keep your dead giraffes and swine,
    I'll take dead baboons every time.
    There's just one problem I have found:
    It's finding Purina Dead Baboon Chow.
    But what a happy snorkelling device...
    (That's another line I'm not real sure about, but it's somethin' like
    With 99 dead baboons.

    Dead baboons, dead baboons.
    Dead baboons, dead baboons.
  14. Aug 24, 2005 #13
    Everything aside, if you get a chance, look at a clip from the speach made today in Idaho. Check out the scene behind Bush.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index2&cid=1033 [Broken]
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  15. Aug 24, 2005 #14
    Sorry, did I just go off topic?
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    TSM are you hitting the sauce again? :wink:
  17. Aug 24, 2005 #16
    Nah, I just woke up, saw something about monkeys and realized I had an appropriate song.

    Tell Evo, that I am trying to be good!!! :blushing:

    I think my current warning score is about 12 so rather than get into arguments that inevitably end ' ... and the horse you rode in on!!!' I have taken to posting songs instead. o:)
  18. Aug 24, 2005 #17
    OK so is this a a new backdrop behind the president or have I not been watching enough of Shrub's speeches lately. There has normally been a plain American flag behind him. Can you read the words?

    Scroll down to the Bush Thum & click. I think you may need DSL

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index2&cid=1033 [Broken]
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  19. Aug 24, 2005 #18
    You had to wait for mention of monkeys for that song with me around?

    And I was wondering why you started being nicer to me.
  20. Aug 25, 2005 #19
    If I'd know that would have turned your crank, I would have posted it earlier.

    'NICE' to me is having a good argument.

    That IS what we're all here for isn't it?

    Hanging a shingle in here is the equivalent of 'I'd like to have an argument please.'

    And no, I wasn't warned for anything I said to you. (Yet :biggrin:)
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    I agree technology makes a big difference in regard to exposure. However, other advances such as marketing strategies are now used in politics (per PBS "The Persuaders" program mentioned before)--no one knows demographics like Rove. But I feel it goes beyond even this with Bush. Dirty, dirty tactics (like that used against McCain--cold war, pfft), and I feel this is why our country hasn't been so divided since slavery.

    After Watergate I thought Americans would be less tolerant of manipulation of our democratic processes, but I hear people say all the time how this is just politics, like it's okay or something. I'm about to sound like my mother, but since this is the 'norm' it's okay to jump off the cliff with everyone else? Arrgh, I'm getting old!?
  22. Aug 25, 2005 #21
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthyism.htm [Broken] is just a portion of what propaganda enabled during the cold war. People actually accepted this and participated in it.
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  23. Aug 25, 2005 #22
    Huh, here I was thinking of that as an example of why we should stand against the use of propaganda.
  24. Aug 25, 2005 #23
    My bad

    I hadn't seen the speech, thanks for the link.

    I caught the press conference on C-SPAN and was confused. :confused: :blushing:
  25. Aug 25, 2005 #24
    He's getting a bit nervous about where his neigbour's bullets are going to land. He may shoot them into the air but they HAVE to come down somewhere.
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    I was thinking the same thing about how bedraggled Dubya's been looking. It's about time the Alfred E. Neuman smirk is gone from his face and he is starting to worry.
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