Saturday Giggle --- Flat Earth Society

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The discussion revolves around the Flat Earth theory, exploring various perspectives on the beliefs held by members of the Flat Earth Society, as well as related topics such as Young Earth Creationism and perceptions of misinformation in popular media. The conversation includes anecdotes and personal experiences, touching on the nature of belief and skepticism in scientific contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recount personal experiences with individuals who hold Flat Earth beliefs, noting the peculiar justifications for these views, such as the idea of following a circle around a flat disc.
  • There are anecdotes about Young Earth Creationists who believe that dinosaur bones were fabricated by scientists, highlighting the challenges of reasoning with such beliefs.
  • Participants express skepticism about popular media portrayals of scientific concepts, particularly criticizing the presentation of the Big Bang theory and the age of the Earth in a documentary series.
  • Humor is used to discuss the Flat Earth theory, with references to mythical creatures and symbolic representations, such as the Earth being supported by turtles and elephants.
  • One participant shares a recent conversation with a pilot who dismissed the Flat Earth theory, suggesting that practical experience in aviation contradicts the idea of a flat Earth.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of mental health issues, particularly in relation to belief systems that may validate delusions.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views and remains unresolved. Participants share differing opinions on the validity of Flat Earth beliefs and the implications of misinformation, with no consensus reached on these topics.

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Some statements reflect personal anecdotes and subjective interpretations of experiences, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also highlights the complexity of belief systems and the challenges of engaging with differing viewpoints.

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Readers interested in the psychology of belief, the Flat Earth theory, or the intersection of science and popular culture may find this discussion relevant.

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Ahh so they all live on the edge of the world.
 
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Too funny! :oldlaugh:
 
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Long ago, I briefly knew a guy who was a full-on genuine member of the Flat Earth Society. His explanation for why planes can travel around the world and end up where they started is that "it's like following a circle around a flat disc". I never could get an explanation out of him for what happens if another plane flies in a direction initially at 90 deg to the first. o0)

But there are worse things in life. His wife was a full-on schizophrenic who "actually saw" woodland fairies and sprites when walking in a nature reserve. One of their friends could "talk to animals" and... (wait for it...) hear them talking back in plain English. :eek:

Yet, for the most part, they all carried on lives that would appear superficially normal to a casual observer.
 
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strangerep said:
Long ago, I briefly knew a guy who was a full-on genuine member of the Flat Earth Society. His explanation for why planes can travel around the world and end up where they started is that "it's like following a circle around a flat disc". I never could get an explanation out of him for what happens if another plane flies in a direction initially at 90 deg to the first. o0)

But there are worse things in life. His wife was a full-on schizophrenic who "actually saw" woodland fairies and sprites when walking in a nature reserve. One of their friends could "talk to animals" and... (wait for it...) hear them talking back in plain English. :eek:

Yet, for the most part, they all carried on lives that would appear superficially normal to a casual observer.
Whoa.

Well I worked with a Young Earth Creationist that would explain dinosaurs as "you can create anything you want from a pile of bones. He actually believed that scientists created the bones and buried them to be "found". You just don't argue reason with people like this, you just nod and walk away.

I'm currently watching "The Story of God" with Morgan Freeman on National Geographic. Sad, so much misinformation. He just said that the Big Bang was formed from a single point.

He admitted that he is a Christian and holds Christian beliefs. Oh well. maybe they should have found someone with an open scientific mind for this series. He seems to not believe in other religious beliefs, not open towards them. He tells the stories of other religions with an "are they joking?" attitude. Like the hindu pantheon of gods.

OMG, he just said that scientists say the Earth is 14 billion years old. :nb) I can't watch this anymore.
 
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strangerep said:
I never could get an explanation out of him for what happens if another plane flies in a direction initially at 90 deg to the first.
Probably means you would have a hard time explaining mathematical dimensions to him.
 
Evo said:
scientists say the Earth is 14 billion years old.
Probably confabulated with the age of the universe.
 
strangerep said:
Long ago, I briefly knew a guy who was a full-on genuine member of the Flat Earth Society.
When I was younger I thought the idea of Flat Earthers was just a fun joke and that they did not exist in reality. Oh, how I miss the naivety of my youth :smile:.
Evo said:
He actually believed that scientists created the bones and buried them to be "found".
ooohkay...o0)
 
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Evo said:
He actually believed that scientists created the bones and buried them to be "found".
DennisN said:
ooohkay...o0)
Actually, that’s not too crazy :wink::rolleyes: Some years back, a paper was published in the journal Nano Letters discussing how nanorods of gold were fabricated in a really interesting “chopstick” formation. The chemistry blog Chembark noticed something really funny about the microscope images that were within the paper—only to reveal the nanorods were photoshopped into the “chopstick” structures. When you look at the images, it’s really badly done Photoshop work, too (actually some were saying that it's so bad, it was probably done on MS paint). It was really quite unbelievable considering that Nano Letters is a very well recognized journal and the paper about the gold nanorods was peer reviewed.

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Read the blog post and watch the Sixty Symbols video (I love Sixty Symbols, btw)!
http://blog.chembark.com/2013/08/14/some-very-suspicious-tem-images-in-nano-letters/

 
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Evo said:
I'm currently watching "The Story of God" with Morgan Freeman on National Geogrpahic. Sad, so much misinformation. He just said that the Big Bang was formed from a single point.

He admitted that he is a Christian and holds Christian beliefs. Oh well. maybe they should have found someone with an open scientific mind for this series. He seems to not believe in other religious beliefs, not open towards them. He tells the stories of other religions with an "are they joking?" attitude. Like the hindu pantheon of gods.

OMG, he just said that scientists say the Earth is 14 billion years old. :nb) I can't watch this anymore.
that's dreadful information :frown:
 
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Evo said:
Well I worked with a Young Earth Creationist that would explain dinosaurs as "you can create anything you want from a pile of bones. He actually believed that scientists created the bones and buried them to be "found". You just don't argue reason with people like this, you just nod and walk away.

I had that honour as well and he said the very same thing about dinosaur bones. On the other hand he provided amusement of a level not easily found outside of the circle of professional (and top notch) comedians, so in some small and obscure way my life was enriched.
 
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strangerep said:
But there are worse things in life. His wife was a full-on schizophrenic who "actually saw" woodland fairies and sprites when walking in a nature reserve. One of their friends could "talk to animals" and... (wait for it...) hear them talking back in plain English. :eek:
Just goes to show that there is "someone for everyone" in the world. :wink:
 
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davenn said:
that's dreadful information :frown:
But in the context of "misinformation" it's dead on. :wink:
 
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The Earth is a flat plane on the back of a turtle, I don't see how anyone could dispute that. You can even see the turtle if you take enough drugs.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
The Earth is a flat plane on the back of a turtle, I don't see how anyone could dispute that. You can even see the turtle if you take enough drugs.

I thought it was supported by 4 elephants that rode on its shell, no?
 
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Hepth said:
I thought it was supported by 4 elephants that rode on its shell, no?
It's turtles...all the way down.
 
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Hepth said:
I thought it was supported by 4 elephants that rode on its shell, no?

Right. Then there are two serpents that twine around the shell. Their bodies keep the dirt from sliding off.

I used to live in Bali, where there are thousands of models of this. But no, it's just symbolic, they don't really believe it.
 
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1oldman2 said:
strangerep said:
[...schizophrenics...]
Just goes to show that there is "someone for everyone" in the world. :wink:
If it were harmless, I'd agree. But it's not: such people tend to validate and deepen each other's psychopathy. Eventually reality intervenes and their worlds implode, leading to severe mental breakdowns and hospitalization. I've had the misfortune of observing this process a few times at (reasonably) close range. Not pretty. :cry:

Like most illnesses, schizophrenia and associated delusions need to be treated when still in the mild stage. Easy to say... :frown:
 
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Today i met a pilot for Alaska Airlines. I have been debating with my son on the flat Earth theory for years. So i asked this pilot if he thinks the Earth is flat and he laughed at me and said that it would be impossible to land an airplane on a spinning ball, "Impossible!" he said and this guy has been flying 737s in and out of southeast Alaska for the last 15 years. I just wonder what you guys have to say about that. This guy wasn't a schizophrenic, or married to one or delusional.
 
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Could be he thought you were the flat-earther, and humored you to get on with his life.
A possibility is that he is right now he's telling a story of meeting someone who wanted to talk to him about the Earth being flat.
 
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Pamtastic67 said:
I just wonder what you guys have to say about that.
If we replied in detail to every piece of crackpot nonsense on the Internet, we'd never get any actual work done.

o0)
 
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Pamtastic67 said:
Today i met a pilot for Alaska Airlines. I have been debating with my son on the flat Earth theory for years. So i asked this pilot if he thinks the Earth is flat and he laughed at me and said that it would be impossible to land an airplane on a spinning ball, "Impossible!" he said and this guy has been flying 737s in and out of southeast Alaska for the last 15 years.
I think he was pulling your leg.
Pilots land on aircraft carriers, which are moving around a lot more erratically than is the earth.
 
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