Saving Private Lynch

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Remember when the USA military, news, and government made a big deal about Jessica Lynch, the army girl who was "ambushed" by the "evil Iraqis"? Well, it was all lies, of course.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html

I wonder when the movie will hit the big screen?
 

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Zero
Of course it was made up...that's what passes for honor and decency these days!
 
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Sunfist
Most definitely. Lies are what got us there and lies are what they want to use to make it seem like we are doing a great thing.
 
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Zero
Heck, the whole 'war on terro' is a sham, and an excuse to take over the oil fields of the Middle East. This isn't a new idea, but one that has been floating around the neocon community for at least a decade. The 'war on terror' is just an excuse.

Poor PVT Lynch got steamrolled into the war propaganda.
 
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Sunfist
I agree. You simply cannot wage war against an easily recreated action. The only possible way to win a war on Terror, would be something like Brave New World, where every single person on Earth is drugged out of their mind and so they sit around happy all day.

"With a war that is endless against a foe that is stateless (terror has no nationality), invisible (it could be anyone), and ubiquitous (they could be anywhere), the potential for media distortions to become both pervasive and permanent is very real indeed."
 
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Zero
This is a perfect example of the government creating a hero for their media war. They certainly couldn't make a TV movie about teh soldiers who have gunned down innocent children, foreign reporters, or carloads full of families.
 
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Originally posted by Zero
This is a perfect example of the government creating a hero for their media war. They certainly couldn't make a TV movie about teh soldiers who have gunned down innocent children, foreign reporters, or carloads full of families.
Just a bunch of wagging the dog. This war to protect the world from terrorism, like the vietnam war to protect the world from communism, is really all about getting the incumbent president* "re"-elected.
 
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Adam, maybe you should rephrase. Putting "ambush" in quotes makes it sound like you think she wasn't. Not even your article implies that. In fact it says quite explicitly that the events leading up to her capture are uncontested.

Also, this report like so many other erroneous ones during the war is entirely the fault of an overzealous media who didn't understand what they were witnessing.
 
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Which report? The one incorporating independent witnesses or the one orchestrated by the military PR machine?



In fact it says quite explicitly that the events leading up to her capture are uncontested.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7153144%255E1702,00.html [Broken]
Original reports of the ambush suggested that Lynch was shot several times as she fiercely fought Iraqi soldiers. But an official report subsequently revealed Lynch was injured when the speeding Humvee she was travelling in crashed into the back of a five-tonne Army truck as they tried to escape the ambush.
Don't ya just love google?
 
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Originally posted by FZ+
Which report?
The link provided by Adam.
 
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That's strange then, as Adam's report is clearly dated May 12, 11 days after Bush declared the end of major combat in Iraq...
 
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Zero
I love this story: she was ambushed(lie), shot repeatedly(lie), and fought for her life(iffy). She was tortured(lie), held against her will(lie), and only the bravery of the Special Forces could save her(lie).
 
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Originally posted by FZ+
That's strange then, as Adam's report is clearly dated May 12, 11 days after Bush declared the end of major combat in Iraq...
I haven't a clue what your point is, but I think you're trying to read more into it than I have said. This is the passage I was referring to:
Private Lynch, a 19-year-old clerk from Palestine, West Virginia, was a member of the US Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company that took a wrong turning near Nassiriya and was ambushed. Nine of her US comrades were killed. Iraqi soldiers took Lynch to the local hospital, which was swarming with fedayeen, where he was held for eight days. That much is uncontested.
No, it doesn't go into specifics, but neither did I.

Maybe my statment about "this report" confused you, but my intention was blaming the entire confused situation on overzealous media reporting. I will concede however that the pentagon fell into one of the same traps: reporting before the full story was known. The other trap the media fell into was reporting on a situation they didn't understand (that applies mostly to the rescue).
 
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Greetings !

I think this was a big mistake. Yet, it can partially
be understood since no one was apparently prepared for
the level of media coverage of the war in Iraq and the
effect it had on the masses. The sudden realization
of these things may've caused this premature and exhagerated
attempt at a partial "solution" for this problem.
I would not be surprised if it were some ambitous
politician's Hollywood inspired BS that managed
to "slip through" and be realized when the government
was preoccupied with a great deal of much more serious
issues.
Originally posted by Sunfist
"With a war that is endless against a foe that is stateless (terror has no nationality), invisible (it could be anyone), and ubiquitous (they could be anywhere),
Actually, terror does have clear states from which it
originates and operates without which there would
be little of it left to speak of. Terror does have some
primary nationalities (and a religion :wink:) and it
is not at all invisible in many cases - just impossible
to touch because it is protected by the same laws that
protect ordinary people/organizations/countries yet doesn't,
at all, care for "playing" by the rules. To defeat it one
must bend and sometimes break the rules. Unfortunately there
are some short-sighted and foolish people who think only
of themselves and their own "sacred" rights rather than
accepting these rights and laws as guidelines designed to
achieve a general purpose of well being and freedom for
all people - in addition to those individuals, and thus
like any guidelines may sometimes not be followed when they
do not serve their purpose but rather betray it.

Live long and prosper.
 

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