Second Shift Theorem: Integral Explanation

In summary, the conversation discusses the alternative form of the second shift property (4.8) and why the integral of (e^-sp) g(p+a) dp is not equal to the integral of (e^-sp) g(t) dp. The explanation involves using substitutions and changing the limits of integration to show that the final answer is L{ g(t+a) }. The conversation also clarifies that g(p+a) is a function, not a multiplication, and walks through the steps to show that ##\mathcal{L}\{ g(t) \mathcal{H}(t-a) \} = e^{-as}\mathcal{L}\{ g(t+a)\}.##
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for the alternative form of second shift property (4.8) , why he integral of (e^-sp) g(p+a) dp isn't equal to integral of (e^-sp) g(t) dp ? why it will become L{ g(t+a) } ?

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Would you mind showing more work explaining your reasoning?
I imagine the answer is either in the endpoints of your integrals or the substitution.

Straight off, from your question, for ##t = p+a##
##\int e^{-sp}g(p+a) dp = \int e^{-sp}g(t) dp##
but you can't do much with that...complete the substitution to change the whole integral into one with only dependence on t and no p's.
 
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RUber said:
Would you mind showing more work explaining your reasoning?
I imagine the answer is either in the endpoints of your integrals or the substitution.

Straight off, from your question, for ##t = p+a##
##\int e^{-sp}g(p+a) dp = \int e^{-sp}g(t) dp##
but you can't do much with that...complete the substitution to change the whole integral into one with only dependence on t and no p's.
ya , why not the final ans not L {g(p+a)} ?
 
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Write out the steps with the limits of integration. Do the substitutions where appropriate to make sure the new integrals are from zero to infinity.
 
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RUber said:
Write out the steps with the limits of integration. Do the substitutions where appropriate to make sure the new integrals are from zero to infinity.
is my working until here correct ?
 

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It looks like you are treating g(p+a) as a multiplication. g(x) is a function.
Also, when you do substitutions within integrals, you have to change the limits as well.

For example:
Substituting ##t = p+a\quad p = t-a\quad p=0 \implies t = a##
##\int_0^\infty e^{-sp}g(p+a) dp = \int_{a}^\infty e^{-s(t-a)}g(t) dt##
Does that make sense?
 
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RUber said:
It looks like you are treating g(p+a) as a multiplication. g(x) is a function.
Also, when you do substitutions within integrals, you have to change the limits as well.

For example:
Substituting ##t = p+a\quad p = t-a\quad p=0 \implies t = a##
##\int_0^\infty e^{-sp}g(p+a) dp = \int_{a}^\infty e^{-s(t-a)}g(t) dt##
Does that make sense?
i gt stucked here , how to continue?
 

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You are looking to show that ##\mathcal{L}\{ g(t) \mathcal{H}(t-a) \} = e^{-as}\mathcal{L}\{ g(t+a)\}.##
Start by expanding the transform:
##\mathcal{L}\{ g(t) \mathcal{H}(t-a) \} =\int_0^\infty e^{-st}g(t) \mathcal{H}(t-a)dt##
Apply the Heaviside function:
##\qquad \qquad =\int_a^\infty e^{-st}g(t) dt##
Because this integral does not start at 0, we need to shift it with a substitution.
Substitute t = p+a ... p = t-a ... dt = dp ...and where t = a, p = 0 (for the limits of integration).
##\qquad \qquad =\int_0^\infty e^{-s(p+a)}g(p+a) dp=\int_0^\infty e^{-sp-sa}g(p+a) dp##
Since a and s are not variables inside the integral, you can move them to the outside:
##\qquad \qquad =e^{-as} \int_0^\infty e^{-sp}g(p+a) dp.##
In this form you can see that this is the same as
## e^{-as}\mathcal{L}\{ g(p+a)\}## but since p could be any letter, you can name it t.
This will give you what you want to show:
##\mathcal{L}\{ g(t) \mathcal{H}(t-a) \} = e^{-as}\mathcal{L}\{ g(t+a)\}.##
 
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i gt stucked here , how to continue?
Two things I noticed in your post #7...
1) There is no need to do integration by parts on this.
2) You did not distribute properly in your exponential: -s(t-a) = -st+sa.
 
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What is the Second Shift Theorem?

The Second Shift Theorem is a mathematical theorem used to evaluate definite integrals with trigonometric functions. It allows for the shifting of the function's argument by a constant value, making the integration process simpler.

How is the Second Shift Theorem used?

The Second Shift Theorem is used by substituting the argument of the function with a new variable. This variable is then shifted by a constant value, which allows for the use of simpler trigonometric identities to solve the integral.

What is the formula for the Second Shift Theorem?

The formula for the Second Shift Theorem is ∫f(x)dx = ∫f(x+a)dx = ∫f(x)dx + a, where 'a' is the constant value used to shift the function's argument.

Why is the Second Shift Theorem useful?

The Second Shift Theorem is useful because it simplifies the integration process for trigonometric functions. It allows for the use of simpler identities and reduces the number of steps required to solve the integral.

What are some common applications of the Second Shift Theorem?

The Second Shift Theorem has various applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and mathematics. It is commonly used in the evaluation of Fourier series, solving differential equations, and calculating areas under curves.

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