Seperation of Variables

In summary: Good job.In summary, the student attempted to solve for y by integrating (x-1)dy/dx=6y. However, the ln's in the equation caused some confusion and the student was unable to solve for y. They ended up solving for y by exponentiating both sides.
  • #1
goaliejoe35
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Homework Statement

[tex](x-1)y'=6y[/tex]

Could someone please help explain to me how to do this problem.

Here's my attempt...

[tex](x-1)y'=6y[/tex]
[tex](x-1)dy=6y[/tex]
[tex](x-1)=6y/dy[/tex]
[tex]\int (x-1)dx=\int 6y/dy[/tex]
[tex]((x^2,2)-x)= 3y^2+C[/tex]

Then I try to get it to equal y and it comes out nothing like the answer. Am I even doing these steps correct?
 

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  • #2
y'=dy/dx. Put that in and separate. Don't put dy or dx into the denominator. It's supposed to be in the numerator to integrate.
 
  • #3
ok so it would be like this...

[tex](x-1)dy/dx=6y[/tex]
 
  • #4
goaliejoe35 said:
ok so it would be like this...

[tex](x-1)dy/dx=6y[/tex]

Yes. Now separate.
 
  • #5
ok now here's what i have...

[tex](x-1)dy/dx=6y[/tex]
[tex](x-1)dy=6ydx[/tex]
[tex]dy=6ydx/(x-1)[/tex]
[tex]dy/6y=dx/(x-1)[/tex]
[tex]
\int dy/6y=\int dx/(x-1)
[/tex]

is that correct?
 
  • #6
goaliejoe35 said:
ok now here's what i have...

[tex](x-1)dy/dx=6y[/tex]
[tex](x-1)dy=6ydx[/tex]
[tex]dy=6ydx/(x-1)[/tex]
[tex]dy/6y=dx/(x-1)[/tex]
[tex] \ int dy/6y= \ int dx/(x-1)[/tex]

That's it. Good job.
 
  • #7
ok but now I need to solve for y, so are these the right answers for the integral?

[tex]

\int dy/6y=\int dx/(x-1)

[/tex]
[tex] (y^2/12)=ln(x-1)+c [/tex]
 
  • #8
No, y is in the denominator on the left side. It should give you another log type integral.
 
  • #9
[tex] ln(y)/6 [/tex] is that right? and is the other side correct?
 
  • #10
Yes. Now both sides are correct. Can you solve for y now?
 
  • #11
[tex] ln(y)/6 = ln(x-1) + C [/tex]

Now how do I solve for y? I am not sure what to do with the ln's.
 
  • #12
**edit**

*erased*
 
  • #13
Exponentiate both sides. exp(ln(A))=A. I'd move the 6 over to the x side first.
 
  • #14
so it would be..

e^(ln(y))=6e^(ln(x-1)) + C
 
  • #15
Noo. e^(6*ln(x-1)) is not equal to 6*e^(ln(x-1)). And e^(A+B) is not equal to e^(A)+e^(B). Be careful! Review log rules.
 
  • #16
Ohhh my mistake. e^(ln(y))=e^6ln(x-1)

y=(x-1)^6

is that correct now?
 
  • #17
Almost, where did the constant go?
 
  • #18
y=C(x-1)^6
 
  • #19
goaliejoe35 said:
y=C(x-1)^6

That's it.
 

What is "Seperation of Variables" in science?

Seperation of Variables is a mathematical technique used to solve differential equations. It involves separating the variables in the equation so that each variable can be solved separately.

How does "Seperation of Variables" work?

Seperation of Variables works by isolating each variable in a differential equation and solving for it separately. This is done by assuming that the solution can be written as a product of two functions, each with only one variable. By doing this, the equation can be simplified and solved using basic algebraic techniques.

What types of equations can be solved using "Seperation of Variables"?

"Seperation of Variables" can be applied to a variety of differential equations, including linear and non-linear equations. It is most commonly used for first-order ordinary differential equations, but can also be used for partial differential equations.

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"Seperation of Variables" is a powerful and widely used technique in science and engineering. It allows for the efficient and accurate solution of complex equations, making it a valuable tool for understanding and predicting natural phenomena. It also provides a systematic approach for solving equations, making it easier to interpret and analyze the results.

Are there any limitations to using "Seperation of Variables"?

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