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Anyone see this? What a nut ball! :yuck:
http://shootingmichaelmoore.com/trailer/index.htm
http://shootingmichaelmoore.com/trailer/index.htm
It's interesting to see how, and where, that question is raised. It's often raised by highly privileged Westerners, but never in my very substantial personal experience by refugees driven from their homes who are trying to survive in condemned buildings in Istanbul, people whose lives have been destroyed by US chemical warfare in southern Colombia, those who someone escaped US-backed genocide in East Timor, and on, and on. They couldn't care less what my salary is, or Moore's, or yours. What they care about is how you and I devote your efforts and energies to mitigating or ending their suffering, the afflictions of others like them, and the possible fate that Russell describes. [referring to my email signature at the time]
The distinction is very striking and, in my considerable experience, exceptionless. It perhaps tells us something important about the difference between those who bask in privilege and refuse to use the vast opportunities available to them apart from self-aggrandizement, and their victims around the world. I don't see anything else relevant.
It isn't hypocritical to own stock, it is hypocritical to own stock in a company you hate.Right-wingers always seem to point out how these left(ish) people own stocks, etc and are "capitalist" & that's supposed to be hypocritical, as if socialists have to take an oath of poverty or something.
The US healthcare system is in crisis, but far too many think Canada, UK and France are problem free examples how we should be. I was watching Ice Road Truckers and one guy got hurt and had to pay $12k out of pocket in Canada.Interesting, but that is all an attack on his person, does it mean his documentaries are bad? I just saw Sicko the other night and thought it was pretty shocking. Do you think he portrayed the US healthcare system in a way that is biased and that the system really is better than he liked us to believe?
I haven't seen sicko but basically yeah, they're all a bunch of hippie crap.Interesting, but that is all an attack on his person, does it mean his documentaries are bad?
only hippies would care that little old ladies get dropped off by hospital staff on skid row, or that doctor's opt to not treat somebody when they could, just because it would save the insurance company?I haven't seen sicko but basically yeah, they're all a bunch of hippie crap.
The fact that the issue is being discussed so much more, is helpful.The US healthcare system certainly has problems that need to be fixed, but deceptive "documentaries" are not helpful for that.
I don't understand what you mean...? ... we need to get health care when we travel to the u.s because, if something happens, and we need to go to an american hospital, we don't want to end up with a huge bill.I thought was pretty funny was how the Canadians he talked to bought health insurance for their trip to the US. He portrayed that as evidence of how bad the US's healthcare was instead of how it showed a gap in Canada's!
I think that's a little extreme. I tend to strongly disagree with people who think that criticizing one's country or government equals anti-whatever country.*Caveat - though similarities exist, Moore's political stance really goes beyond just being a hippie. He's anti-America.
It is meant half* tongue in cheek** and the flip side is that you love seeing it because it allows you to ignore the real content of peoples' arguments. Grow up!? You too! - and get a sense of humor!As for Moore being a hippy, you all need to grow up. Of course life is much simpler if you can just put everyone in a little box and hate them all equally. It requires no thought, no effort, and it allows you to spout-off without saying anything. In short, it is cowardly.
I haven't even seen a real hippy in twenty years.
Yes. That's a gap in your coverage that does not exist for most Americans with health insurance. If I go abroad, I do not need to buy extra insurance to be covered.I don't understand what you mean...? ... we need to get health care when we travel to the u.s because, if something happens, and we need to go to an american hospital, we don't want to end up with a huge bill.
Have you watched Bowling for Columbine? I really believe that he dislikes this country.I think that's a little extreme. I tend to strongly disagree with people who think that criticizing one's country or government equals anti-whatever country.
I'm not Michael Moore, so I can't say if he loves America or hates America, nor do I really care. He makes movies, not policies. I think a more important question is how many american senators and politicians love america and care about their people. As a canadian, I don't care if Jim Carey or Mike Myers love Canada, I only care if our PM and the people who directly influence the government do. I can say this:Have you watched Bowling for Columbine? I really believe that he dislikes this country.
i JUST said I hadn't seen sicko. It would follow from that that I'm judging Moore on his past documentaries.only hippies would care that little old ladies get dropped off by hospital staff on skid row, or that doctor's opt to not treat somebody when they could, just because it would save the insurance company?
And Michael Moore makes his money off just that, not only does he make money off of it, he creates more hatred. IMHO, he's an opportunistic scumbag.You do realize that mostly the whole world hates America? I'm sorry to say it but even the average "best friend" Brit on the street would probably, at the least, express a certain dislike towards your government and their international bumbling bulldozer tact.
MM is exploiting the minds of the inept for money and his personal gain. So what? He sees an opportunity and exploits it to the fullest extent. Hes not obligated to reinvest any of his riches into the community. How does this make him a scumbag or anti-america? I prefer the term opportunistic businessman.And Michael Moore makes his money off just that, not only does he make money off of it, he creates more hatred. IMHO, he's an opportunistic scumbag.
How much money from his mockumentories has he put into helping society? None? Oh that's right, he's not into helping, he's just into making money off of people.
You're right, what's the saying? "There's a sucker born every minute"?MM is exploiting the minds of the inept for money and his personal gain. So what? He sees an opportunity and exploits it to the fullest extent. Hes not obligated to reinvest any of his riches into the community. How does this make him a scumbag or anti-america? I prefer the term opportunistic businessman.
If you can't beat em, join em, and when the opportunity comes - crush em.
The general populace are the idiots that allow themselves to be exploited.