What are the properties of ideals in a commutative ring with identity 1?

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In summary, the problem is to show that A+B, AB, and A:B are ideals of R, where R is a commutative ring with identity 1. It is possible that these ideals represent all the properties of ideals, but it does not necessarily mean that there are no other ideals in R. The task is to prove that A+B, AB, and A:B have all the properties of ideals.
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Alright, I need some help with this problem (mainly just to get started):
Let A and B be ideals of R, such that:
A+B={a+b / a in A ,b in B}
AB={aibi / ai in A , bi in B}
A:B={x in R / xb in A} are all ideals of R
Show that A+B, AB, and A:B are ALL the ideals of R, where R is a commutative ring with identity 1.


Thanks guys
 
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This doesn't make sense. There's no reason to believe that those things will be all the ideals of R. In fact, in general they won't be. Are you sure the problem isn't to simply verify that A+B, AB and A:B are ideals? In which case there's still a problem: what you wrote down for "AB" isn't good - it won't be an ideal in general. Should there be a summation sign before aibi?
 
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Yes you are right there should be a summation sign before aibi, that was my bad. But I have been working with someone else on this problem and we came to the conclusion that, your right, they cannot possibly represent all the ideals of R. But is it possible that they represent all the properties of ideals in general? I think that may have been the problem; to show that they represent all the properties of ideals.
 
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What do you mean by "they represent all the properties of ideals".

If they have all the properties of ideals then they are ideals and that is what morphism supposed in his reply...that the taks might be to prove that A+B etc are ideals.
This does not mean of course that there are no other ideals...
 

1. What is an ideal in R?

An ideal in R is a subset of the ring R that satisfies certain properties. Specifically, it is a subset that is closed under addition and multiplication by elements of R, and also contains the additive identity element 0.

2. How many ideals are there in R?

The number of ideals in R depends on the specific ring R. In general, there can be infinitely many ideals in a ring, but some rings may have a finite number of ideals.

3. How can we determine if a subset of R is an ideal?

To determine if a subset of R is an ideal, we need to check if it satisfies the definition of an ideal. This includes checking if it is closed under addition and multiplication by elements of R, and if it contains the additive identity element 0.

4. What is the relationship between subrings and ideals in R?

Every ideal in R is also a subring of R. However, not every subring of R is an ideal. In order for a subring to be an ideal, it must also have the property of absorbing multiplication by elements of R.

5. Can every element in R be contained in an ideal?

Yes, every element in R can be contained in an ideal. In fact, the trivial ideal {0} contains every element of R since it is closed under addition and multiplication by elements of R.

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