# Homework Help: Show that the uncertainty relation forces us to reject the semiclassical Bohr [ ]

1. Oct 4, 2012

### s3a

"Show that the uncertainty relation forces us to reject the semiclassical Bohr [...]"

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
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Uncertainty principle/relation.

3. The attempt at a solution
Why is it the consideration of the motion in classical terms that is reponsible for requiring that the uncertainties in position and momentum be negligible when compared to the actual values? Also, is it the case that the uncertainties need not be negligible when the motion is considered to be non-classical? If so, why is this the case?

Is the reason why Eq. (1.7.1) is incompatible with Eq. (1.7.2) because we can analyze a situation at a specific energy level (and therefore hold n constant for that situation) such that n >> 1 does not hold (for example when n = 1)? Similarly, is it not the case that n >> 1 because, Eq. (1.7.2) does not hold for all values of n (even if it holds for the majority of the values), we can say that the assumption using classical theory is false and we must therefore reject the semiclassical Bohr model for the hydrogen atom?

Even if I got things right, please confirm it for me.

Any help in fully understanding this problem, would be greatly appreciated!

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2. Oct 8, 2012

### s3a

Re: "Show that the uncertainty relation forces us to reject the semiclassical Bohr [.

If there is something important I did not mention, please tell me what is is and I will mention it.