Density of Rationals in R: u>0, x<y

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In summary, if u>0 is any real number and x<y, it can be shown that there exists a rational number r such that x<ru<y. This is proven by defining r=(x+y)/2n and showing that for any real numbers a and b, there exists a rational number r such that a<ru<b. This shows that {ru : r ∈ Q} is dense in R.
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if u>0 is any real number and x<y show there exist a rational number r such that x<ru<y. Hence {ru: r[itex]\in[/itex]Q is dense in R.

I am not sure how to show that there exist a rational number. I was thinking this has something to do with the archimedian property. This is what I have triedx<[itex]\frac{(x+y)}{2}[/itex]<y

Define r= [itex]\frac{(x+y)}{2}[/itex](1/n) when u>=1 and
r=[itex]\frac{(x+y)}{2}[/itex](n) when u<1

where n is an element of the naturals

but I don't think that works? Any suggestions?
 
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Yes, the idea is correct. Here is a more detailed proof:Let u>0 be any real number and x<y. We will show there exists a rational number r such that x<ru<y. Let r = (x+y)/2n where n is a natural number. Then ru = (x+y)/2, so x<ru<y. Since r is a rational number and ru is between x and y, this shows that there exist a rational number r such that x<ru<y. Hence {ru : r ∈ Q} is dense in R. To prove this, let a and b be two real numbers such that a < b. Then we can find an integer n such that u/n < b-a. Let r = (a+b)/2n. Then ru = (a+b)/2, which is between a and b. This shows that for any real numbers a and b, there exists a rational number r such that a<ru<b. Thus {ru : r ∈ Q} is dense in R.
 

1. What does the concept of "density of rationals in R" mean?

The density of rationals in R is a mathematical concept that refers to the idea that between any two real numbers, there exists an infinite number of rational numbers. This means that the rational numbers are densely packed within the real number line, with no gaps or spaces between them.

2. What is the significance of the condition "u>0" in the statement "Density of Rationals in R: u>0, x

The condition "u>0" in the statement "Density of Rationals in R: u>0, x

3. How does the concept of density of rationals in R relate to the concept of irrational numbers?

The density of rationals in R is closely related to the concept of irrational numbers. In fact, it is because of the density of rationals that we can prove the existence of irrational numbers. This is because between any two rational numbers, there exists an infinite number of irrational numbers, showing that the irrational numbers are also densely packed within the real number line.

4. How is the density of rationals in R proven?

The density of rationals in R is proven using a mathematical proof known as the Archimedean property. This property states that for any two real numbers, there exists an integer that is greater than the first number and less than the second number. By using this property, we can show that between any two real numbers, there exists an infinite number of rational numbers, proving the density of rationals in R.

5. Can the concept of density of rationals in R be extended to other number systems?

Yes, the concept of density of rationals in R can be extended to other number systems, such as the complex numbers. In these number systems, the concept of density refers to the idea that between any two numbers, there exists an infinite number of other numbers. This concept is fundamental to the understanding of number systems and their properties.

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