Effortlessly Solve the Simple Integral (x^2+z^2)^-3/2 without Quotation Marks

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In summary: You were trying to integrate using the substitution method, but you made two errors. In your first post you wrote:\sqrt{a + b} \neq \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}This is incorrect because \sqrt{a + b} is actually equal to \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}.In your second post you wrote:\frac{1}{a + b} \neq \frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b}This is also incorrect because \frac{1}{a + b} is actually equal to \frac{1}{a} + \frac
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Here's an easy one, I know the answer but can't get there...

Homework Statement


[tex]\int\frac{1}{(x^2+z^2)^\frac{3}{2}}dx[/tex]

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know this approach is wrong, but why? Or am I not finishing somehow?

[tex]\int\frac{1}{x^3}dx+\int\frac{1}{z^3}dx[/tex]

[tex]\int{x^{-3}}dx+\int{z^{-3}}dx[/tex]

[tex]\frac{x^{-2}}{-2}+xz^{-3}[/tex]The correct answer should be:
[tex]\frac{x}{z^2(x^2+z^2)^{1/2}}[/tex]
 
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  • #2
For one

(x+y)n≠xn+yn

and secondly

1/(a+b) ≠ 1/a + 1/b


What you will need to do is make trig substitution. Try x=ztanθ.
 
  • #3
rock.freak667 said:
What you will need to do is make trig substitution. Try x=ztanθ.

That doesn't seem right- how would that help? Seems like substitution would work here...

This seems closer...

[tex]
\int(x^2+z^2)^\frac{-3}{2}}dx
[/tex]

[tex]
\frac{(z^2+x^2)^\frac{-1}{2}}{\frac{-1}{2}}
[/tex]

I kind of see the

[tex]\frac{x}{z^2}[/tex]

term, but why no

[tex]\frac{x^3}{3}[/tex]
 
  • #4
coregis said:
This seems closer...

[tex]
\int(x^2+z^2)^\frac{-3}{2}}dx
[/tex]

[tex]
\frac{(z^2+x^2)^\frac{-1}{2}}{\frac{-1}{2}}
[/tex]

I kind of see the

[tex]\frac{x}{z^2}[/tex]

term, but why no

[tex]\frac{x^3}{3}[/tex]

Because [tex]\frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{(z^2+x^2)^\frac{-1}{2}}{\frac{-1}{2}}\right)=(x^2+z^2)^\frac{-3}{2}}.2x[/tex]
That doesn't seem right- how would that help?
Why don't you at least try it and see how it might turn out?
Think a little here: what trig substitutions do you know? Mainly along the lines of [itex]sin^2x+cos^2x=1[/itex]
 
  • #5
Somebody (it might have been Einstein) once said, "Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler."

You are making things more simple than is possible. In your first post you made two errors (already pointed out by rock.freak667) that a calculus student should not be making.
[tex]\sqrt{a + b} \neq \sqrt{a} + \sqrt{b}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{a + b} \neq \frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b}[/tex]

Errors like these show that you are either forgetting what you learned in your algebra course, or that you didn't learn some pretty basic concepts very well. If you don't have a firm grasp on the basic algebra and trig skills, you will almost certainly have a very difficult time even following the example problems in calculus, let alone being able to solve the problems on your own.

The math classes you have taken don't stand alone; each one forms part of the foundation for the classes that follow. If you have a difficult time in one of these classes, it will make being successful in the next class even harder.

The third mistake was in your attempt to integrate using an ordinary substitution. Integration using this technique can be described as the integration counterpart of the chain rule in differentiation. Unless you have a solid understanding of the chain rule, you will have a difficult time using this basic technique of antidifferentiation (integration).

If you'll take some advice, I would advise you to identify any algebra and trig areas where you might not be as strong as you should be, and go back to your algebra or trig textbooks and review these sections and work as many problems as necessary to get yourself back up to where you need to be.
 
  • #6
Mark44 said:
advice

Unfortunately I took 4+ years of university calculus over two decades ago. I've gone well beyond this but obviously haven't used these skills in a very long time, which is why I'm having trouble getting started. I'm not looking for anyone to do my homework for me, I just can't remember very much at all. I guess I'll just ask someone who is willing to show me.
 
  • #7
coregis said:
Unfortunately I took 4+ years of university calculus over two decades ago. I've gone well beyond this but obviously haven't used these skills in a very long time, which is why I'm having trouble getting started. I'm not looking for anyone to do my homework for me, I just can't remember very much at all. I guess I'll just ask someone who is willing to show me.
With your background, it shouldn't take too long to review the basics of algebra and trig. Once you have learned something, even though you have forgotten much of it, you can relearn it more easily than you did the first time.

Lots of people are willing to help here at Physics Forum, including myself. rock.freak667 and Mentallic gave some good advice in this thread.
 
  • #8
rock.freak667 said:
Try x=ztanθ.
[tex]x^2=z^2tan^2\theta[/tex]

[tex]dx=zsec^2\theta{d\theta}[/tex]

[tex]
\int\frac{1}{(x^2+z^2)^\frac{3}{2}}dx
[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{(z^2+z^2tan^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{(z^2(1+tan^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{z^2(sec^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{sec^2\theta}{z(sec^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{1}{z(sec^2\theta)^\frac{1}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{1}{z(sec\theta)}d\theta[/tex]

Ok, where did I mess up this time...
 
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  • #9
coregis said:
[tex]dx=zsec^2\theta{d\theta}[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{(z^2+z^2tan^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{(z^2(1+tan^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]
In the line above, you have (z2)3/2. That's z3.
coregis said:
[tex]\int\frac{zsec^2\theta}{z^2(sec^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{sec^2\theta}{z(sec^2\theta)^\frac{3}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{1}{z(sec^2\theta)^\frac{1}{2}}d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{1}{z(sec\theta)}d\theta[/tex]

Ok, where did I mess up this time...
With the correction noted above, and moving the z factor outside the integral (which is done with respect to x only), you have the following. What's a simple identity you can use to replace sec(theta) in the denominator?
[tex]\frac{1}{z^2}\int\frac{1}{(sec\theta)}d\theta[/tex]

The resulting integral is very easy to do.
 
  • #10
Mark44 said:
[tex]\frac{1}{z^2}\int\frac{1}{(sec\theta)}d\theta[/tex]

simple identity ->The resulting integral is very easy to do.

[tex]\frac{1}{z^2}\int\cos\theta d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{z^2}\sin\theta +c[/tex]

?
 
  • #11
Yes. Now all you need to do is to undo your trig substitution. You had x = z*tan(theta), and you want to replace sin(theta) by something involving x and z.

When I worked this problem, to make the trig substitution, I drew a right triangle with the adjacent side labeled z, the opposite side labeled x, and the hypotenuse labeled sqrt(x^2 + z^2). One acute angle was labeled theta. From this triangle you can get sin(theta).
 

1. How do I solve the integral (x^2+z^2)^-3/2 without quotation marks?

To solve this integral, you can use the substitution method. Let u = x^2 + z^2, then du = 2x dx. Rewrite the integral as ∫ u^-3/2 * 1/2x dx. Then use the power rule to solve for the integral. Don't forget to substitute back for u and simplify.

2. Can I use a different method to solve this integral?

Yes, there are multiple methods to solve this integral including integration by parts, trigonometric substitution, and partial fractions. However, the substitution method is the most straightforward for this specific integral.

3. Is it possible to solve this integral without using any mathematical notation?

No, mathematical notation is necessary to accurately represent the integral and its solution. However, you can use a calculator or computer program to solve the integral and display the solution without using notation.

4. How can I check if my solution to the integral is correct?

You can check your solution by taking the derivative of your answer and seeing if it matches the original integrand. Additionally, you can use a calculator or computer program to numerically evaluate the integral and compare it to your solution.

5. Can this integral be applied to real-world problems?

Yes, integrals are used in many scientific fields to solve real-world problems such as calculating the area under a curve, finding the volume of a solid, and determining the center of mass of an object. Understanding how to solve integrals is an important skill for scientists to have.

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