Why Is This Integral Challenging?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a simple integral that has been difficult for the individual to solve due to rusty integration skills. They have tried various methods, including substitution and simplification, but have not found the correct solution. Two suggestions are made, u=1+x^2 and x=tan(u), and ultimately the individual realizes their mistake and finds the correct answer.
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Homework Statement



Hello. I have a simple integral here that has been stumping me for the last 30 minutes. It appears that my basic integration skills have gotten very rusty.

Homework Equations



[tex]\int{x^3}\sqrt{1+x^2}dx[/tex]

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I am pretty sure a simple substitution will do, but I have yet to find it. I have tried simplifying the expression various ways, integration by parts, and I have also tried a few substitutions. Any ideas?
 
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u=1+x^2 will do it.
 
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The substitution x=tan(u) also works.
 
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Thank you Dick and Jgens.

[tex]\int{x^3}\sqrt{1+x^2}dx[/tex]

Let u=1+x^2[tex]\rightarrow[/tex]du=2xdx

[tex]\int{x^3}\sqrt{1+x^2}dx=\frac{1}{2}\int(u-1)\sqrt{u}du[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2}\int(u-1)\sqrt{u}du=\frac{1}{2}(\int{u^{\frac{3}{2}}}du-\int{u^{\frac{1}{2}}du)[/tex]

[tex]\int{u^{\frac{3}{2}}}du=\frac{2}{5}u^{\frac{5}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]\int{u^{\frac{1}{2}}du=\frac{2}{3}u^{\frac{3}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2}\int(u-1)\sqrt{u}du=\frac{2}{10}u^{\frac{5}{2}}-\frac{2}{6}u^{\frac{3}{2}}[/tex]It appears I made a mistake somewhere. I believe my result should be multiplied by 1/2, and I can't find where I left that out.
 
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Nevermind. I guess the second part of the problem is incorrect. Mathematica has arrived at the same conclusion as this also. Thanks for all the help.
 

What is an integral?

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