# Simple Logs

1. May 16, 2005

### cscott

$$log_x 4 + log_x 8 =5$$

I simplified that to $log_x 32 = 5$ but I can't get my head around what to do next and it's annoying me because I feel it's going to be something simple.

2. May 16, 2005

### Curious3141

What you have isn't that much of a simplification, it would be better to break everything on the LHS to powers of 2 and get smaller numbers. Nevertheless, you can solve the equation immediately from what you have.

What is the definition of a logarithm ? What does it mean when you say $$log_a b = c$$. Come up with a simple equation to relate a, b and c using the definition of log, then apply the same principle to your equation, and see what you get.

3. May 16, 2005

### steven187

hey there since the log is to the base x, it follows that
x^(LOGx32)=x^5 the x and the LOGx cancel out the we have
=>32=x^5
therefore x=2

4. May 17, 2005

### cscott

Thanks, I understand that now, but I'm having trouble with another

$$20 000 = 10 000(x)^9$$
$$2 = x^9$$
$$log 2 = log x^9$$
$$log 2 = 9 \cdot log x$$

I think I got closer to the answer...

5. May 17, 2005

### cscott

Is there any way to do it without using trial an error in the end (if the numbers weren't as nice as they are here)?

6. May 17, 2005

### juef

Actually, once you've got $$2 = x^9$$, all you've got to do is $$\sqrt[9]{2} = x = 1.080059739$$.

I don't think it's really trial and error; had it been 31 or 33, the answer wouldn't have been an integer. "Luckily", $$\sqrt[5]{32} = 2$$.

7. May 17, 2005

### whozum

They design textbook problems so you dont have to go through that mess, just understand the cocnept and know how to repeat the steps you just went through and you'll be fine.

8. May 17, 2005

### James R

Just remember, that

$$\log_a b$$

is the power which you must raise a to in order to get b. So

$$\log_2 32 = 5$$

Equivalently, if

$$\log_a b = x$$

then

$$b = a^x$$