Steam Engine Questions: Confederate Torpedo Boats and Operation in the 1860s

In summary, the conversation discussed the use of steam pressure gauges and reversing mechanisms in steam-powered boats during the Civil War. It was mentioned that a small launch could take up to 30 minutes to get a boiler up to operating steam, but once making steam, the time to decouple and restart the drive train would only be a few seconds. The use of pressure gauges and reverse gears were confirmed, and it was explained that boats do not require a neutral gear due to the use of paddle wheels and water screws.
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For my self study of 1860s steam war ships.
Were steam pressure gauges used in 1860?
Was a vessel reversed by reversing the engine or within the gearing?
For a small steam powered launch, how long from a dead stop would it take to get a boiler up to operating steam?
This is for my study of Confederate torpedo boats.
Thank you for your response!
 
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I second @Drakkith 's suggestion.

Livernips said:
For a small steam powered launch, how long from a dead stop would it take to get a boiler up to operating steam?

That's not really the right question.

To start a fire and to warm up a boiler from cold to boiling takes hours for big boilers. Maybe 30 minutes for a small launch.

However, once making steam, one could decouple the ship's drive train to stop motion, and simply vent the steam being produced by the boiler. In that case, the time to close the vent and restart the drive train should be only a few seconds.

The time it takes the drive train to accelerate the vessel from a stop to full speed depends on the max power of the engine and the total mass of the vessel. A small launch empty accelerates faster than a launch loaded to the max with cannonballs.
 
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That answers my time to full steam question anorlunda, thanks. And Drakkith, thanks for the book reference I will look into that one but I don't think it gives details of operation. Thanks.

So, if I can find out if REVERSE is accomplished via the gears or making the steam motor work in reverse?

I have not found a historic source to know if pressure gauges were used in 1860?

Maybe someone else will know?
Thanks
 
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Livernips said:
I have not found a historic source to know if pressure gauges were used in 1860?
My 1863 Robey engine had provision for a pressure gauge.

A water sight glass and pressure gauges have always been used on steam engine boilers. It is the only sensible way to monitor the rate of steam production. The only way to verify the pressure gauge reading was to waste steam and listen to the note it made as it escaped.

There is no need for a reverse gear with a steam engine. The valve mechanism is simply reversed. There are various ways it was done with different valves. I expect a slide valve would have been used on a civil war boat. As an example, a Stephenson valve gear could be used to control the direction of the engine and to throttle the steam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephenson_valve_gear

Steam traction engines often had two gear ratios available, with neutral between. That made it possible to run fast on the flat, to climb steep hills under load, or to stand chocked while driving machinery with a belt.

Boats do not need a neutral gear as simply venting the cylinder will provide a freewheel neutral. Likewise, the displacement hull speed limitation of a boat requires no gear changes when driven by a steam engine. Single or double paddle wheels and water screws were available during the civil war period. Paddle wheels rotated slowly so could be mounted directly on a cross crankshaft. Early water screws were large diameter and slow, so did not require special gear ratios.
 
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Thanks Baluncore, that explains the gauge and reverse. I very much appreciate the responses you fellas have given.
 

1. What were Confederate torpedo boats and how did they operate during the 1860s?

Confederate torpedo boats were small, steam-powered vessels designed to carry and deploy explosive mines, also known as torpedoes. These boats were used by the Confederate Navy during the American Civil War in the 1860s. They were often equipped with a spar, or long pole, on the bow of the boat which could be used to ram enemy ships and detonate the mine.

2. How were Confederate torpedo boats powered?

Confederate torpedo boats were powered by steam engines, which were fueled by coal. The steam engines provided the necessary power to propel the boats through the water and also operated the machinery used to deploy the mines.

3. What were the advantages of using Confederate torpedo boats during the Civil War?

One of the main advantages of using Confederate torpedo boats was their small size and speed. These boats were able to navigate through shallow waters and were difficult for larger, slower ships to target. Additionally, the element of surprise and the destructive power of the mines made these boats a valuable asset in naval warfare.

4. How successful were Confederate torpedo boats in battle?

The success of Confederate torpedo boats varied throughout the course of the Civil War. In some cases, these boats were able to successfully sink or damage Union ships, causing significant damage to the Union Navy. However, they were also vulnerable to being destroyed by enemy fire or becoming stuck in shallow waters.

5. Did Confederate torpedo boats have any impact on naval warfare in the 1860s?

While Confederate torpedo boats were not a major factor in the outcome of the Civil War, they did have an impact on naval warfare. These boats were among the first to use explosive mines as a strategic weapon, paving the way for the development of more advanced naval technology in the future.

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