Does Sin(3x) = 3sinx have a provable limit at theta = 0?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a bizarre proof about the limit of a trigonometric function and the correctness of certain steps in the proof. The conclusion is that the proof is invalid and the step used is not a valid mathematical operation.
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This is a bizarre little proof that is probably wrong, but I want to know where
[tex]\lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = 3[/tex]
This is provable quite easily, I don't think I need to do that atm...
well, we know that
[tex]\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 1[/tex]
So that would imply that
[tex]3\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3[/tex]
thus implying that
[tex]\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3[/tex]
By substitution
[tex]\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}[/tex]
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
[tex]\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}[/tex]
Which oh so quickly becomes
[tex]\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}[/tex]
 
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Wooh said:
[tex]\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}[/tex]
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
[tex]\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}[/tex]
Which oh so quickly becomes
[tex]\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}[/tex]


Yes, that step is "iffy". With it, I can "prove" that sin(3θ) equals any function with the same limit as θ approaches zero. The step is invalid for the same reason that it is invalid to conclude that sin(3θ)=sin(θ) just because those two functions happen to be equal at θ=0.

edit: fixed quote bracket
 
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Ok, cool, I can accept that. :)
 
  • #4
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
 
  • #5
cookiemonster said:
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
smartass :-p
 
  • #6
Hey now, I was just saying the same thing Tom was. ;)

And getting to be a smartass is a privilege of being young!

cookiemonster
 

1. What is the solution to the equation Sin(3x)=3sinx ?

The solution to this equation is x=0 and x=π.

2. Why are there two solutions for this equation?

This equation has two solutions because the graph of Sin(3x) intersects the graph of 3sinx at two points, x=0 and x=π. These two points satisfy the equation and are therefore considered solutions.

3. How can this equation be solved?

This equation can be solved algebraically by using trigonometric identities and properties, such as the double angle formula. It can also be solved graphically by plotting the two functions and finding their intersection points.

4. Can this equation have more than two solutions?

No, this equation can only have two solutions. This is because the graphs of Sin(3x) and 3sinx are periodic and repeat themselves after every 2π. Therefore, the intersection points will also repeat after every 2π and there will only be two distinct solutions.

5. What is the importance of this equation in mathematics?

This equation is important in mathematics because it demonstrates the concept of multiple solutions to a trigonometric equation. It also showcases the periodic nature of trigonometric functions and how they repeat themselves after certain intervals.

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