Slope w.r.t Origin: Difference, Usage & Examples

In summary: They're comparing the slopes of the various segments from the origin to the points on the curve. The slope of the tangent line at the left-most point is less than at the other two points shown in this graph, but that's not what they're comparing. They're comparing the slopes of the various segments from the origin to the points on the curve.
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Mayank Totloor
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What is the difference between slope w.r.t origin and slope at a point on the curve and when are they used ?
 
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Please help with the above
 
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"Slope with respect to the origin" is not a very useful concept, I don't believe. In the drawing on the right, the curve you drew might as well not be there. All you are doing is measuring the slope of the line segment between the origin and some point. The slope at a point on a curve is very useful, as it gives you an idea of the direction of the curve. If a bug were walking along the curve, the tangent line to the curve would point in the same direction the bug is moving. The slope of the tangent line tells you how steeply the curve is rising or falling (or possibly staying level).
 
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Mark44 said:
"Slope with respect to the origin" is not a very useful concept, I don't believe. In the drawing on the right, the curve you drew might as well not be there. All you are doing is measuring the slope of the line segment between the origin and some point. The slope at a point on a curve is very useful, as it gives you an idea of the direction of the curve. If a bug were walking along the curve, the tangent line to the curve would point in the same direction the bug is moving. The slope of the tangent line tells you how steeply the curve is rising or falling (or possibly staying level).
I just came across an example which used slope w.r.t origin. Can you please walk me through the solution
 
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In the photo of your textbook page there is no mention of "slope with respect to the origin." In Fig 4.26, they are comparing the slopes of several line segments going from the origin to various points on the curve. They note that the point at which the slope is smallest is the point for which the tangent line coincides with a line segment from the origin to that point. Does your book actually use this terminology "slope with respect to the origin"? I've never seen it in any textbook.

I still maintain that it is not a very useful concept. The important concept is the slope of the tangent line to a curve at a point on the curve.
 
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Mark44 said:
In the photo of your textbook page there is no mention of "slope with respect to the origin." In Fig 4.26, they are comparing the slopes of several line segments going from the origin to various points on the curve. They note that the point at which the slope is smallest is the point for which the tangent line coincides with a line segment from the origin to that point. Does your book actually use this terminology "slope with respect to the origin"? I've never seen it in any textbook.

I still maintain that it is not a very useful concept. The important concept is the slope of the tangent line to a curve at a point on the curve.
No, the text does not use the terminology "slope with respect to the origin", now that I've come across this example I thought that there might exist such a concept.
Don't you think the smallest slope is at point where the first line segment meets the curve in the Fig. 4.26 ? (If we consider the slope at a point on the curve).

Here's the question for the previous solution.
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BTW, the Fig. 4.25 is same as the Fig.4.26
 
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Mayank Totloor said:
No, the text does not use the terminology "slope with respect to the origin", now that I've come across this example I thought that there might exist such a concept.
Don't you think the smallest slope is at point where the first line segment meets the curve in the Fig. 4.26 ? (If we consider the slope at a point on the curve).
No, but that's a reasonable question. You have to distinguish between "slope at a point on the curve" and "slope of the segment to a point on the curve." In the solution for Example 5, it says, "Figure 4.26 shows that g/v is the slope of the line from the origin to the point P."
In the image of Fig. 4.26, the slope of the tangent line at the left-most point is less than at the other two points shown in this graph, but that's not what they're comparing.
 
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1. What is slope with respect to the origin?

Slope with respect to the origin refers to the steepness of a line when it passes through the point (0,0) or the origin on a coordinate plane.

2. What is the difference between slope with respect to the origin and slope with respect to a point?

The main difference is that slope with respect to the origin is calculated using the point (0,0) as the reference point, while slope with respect to a point is calculated using a specific point as the reference point. Additionally, slope with respect to the origin is used to determine the overall steepness of a line, while slope with respect to a point is used to determine the steepness of a line at a specific point.

3. How is slope with respect to the origin calculated?

Slope with respect to the origin is calculated by dividing the change in y-coordinates by the change in x-coordinates between the origin and another point on the line. This is represented by the formula m = y2/x2, where (x2, y2) is the point on the line and (0,0) is the origin.

4. In what situations is slope with respect to the origin used?

Slope with respect to the origin is commonly used in mathematics and science to analyze the overall steepness of a line or to determine the rate of change between two variables. It is also used in physics to calculate the velocity of an object in motion.

5. Can you provide an example of calculating slope with respect to the origin?

For example, if we have two points on a line, (2,4) and (6,8), we can calculate the slope with respect to the origin by first finding the change in y-coordinates (8-4=4) and the change in x-coordinates (6-2=4). Then, we divide the change in y-coordinates by the change in x-coordinates, giving us a slope of 1 (4/4=1).

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