El Hombre Invisible said:Where these people also cigarettes smokers and, if so, did they continue to smoke cigarettes after they stopped smoking grass?
I agree. Smoke-driving not a good idea.
"Problems" is vague because of the "a lot" part. I know one married couple that gets high on a daily basis and they fight all the time (that's just the beginning of their problems). I'm not implying a definite cause-effect relationship here, I'm just saying I don't want to be like them, so whether it's a cause or an effect doesn't really matter.Kerrie said:Can you elaborate on "problems"? That's a vague term. It would seem to me that marijuana was the cause of these problems rather then the problems causing the marijuana smoking.
russ_watters said:"Problems" is vague because of the "a lot" part. I know one married couple that gets high on a daily basis and they fight all the time (that's just the beginning of their problems). I'm not implying a definite cause-effect relationship here, I'm just saying I don't want to be like them, so whether it's a cause or an effect doesn't really matter.
Perhaps, but if you take a couple of highly beligerent people and remove their already limited inhibitions...loseyourname said:Marijuana definitely does not make anybody beligerent.
loseyourname said:Marijuana definitely does not make anybody beligerent. You might argue over the fact that one is always high, but that's pretty hypocritical if both are always high.
Kerrie said:generally not i agree, but when someone is out of pot and uptight, then i can see how an argument starts. alcohol makes people far more beligerent.
Couldn't quite follow your answer. No, they weren't cigarette smokers? It's just that you describe nicotine withdrawal symptoms (anxiety, mood swings) after ceasing smoking marijuana. If they weren't smokers, this is more likely attributed to the tobacco they used in their spliffs.Kerrie said:no, myself nor the others i have known were addicted to nicotine. not having it for a few days made me experience even more moodiness and anxiety, same with others who smoked chronically then stopped cold turkey. my stand on the issue is the responsible use of it, but i don't glorify it like i once had in my 20's.
El Hombre Invisible said:Couldn't quite follow your answer. No, they weren't cigarette smokers? It's just that you describe nicotine withdrawal symptoms (anxiety, mood swings) after ceasing smoking marijuana. If they weren't smokers, this is more likely attributed to the tobacco they used in their spliffs.
Okay, next question: what did you put in your joints other than marijuana? If nothing, fair play you are hardcore. Most people put tobacco in theirs. Thus when they stop smoking they feel anxiety, mood swings, lack of concentration, etc. This are all nictotine withdrawal symptoms.Kerrie said:i am saying that i experienced anxiety and mood swings after ceasing marijuana smoking for years and i was not a cigarrette smoker either. those i have known to smoke MJ chronically also were not cigarette smokers and experienced the same symptoms as i did.
I don't know your friend, but it sounds to me like he is an anxious person and grass offers relief. If I suffer from chronic pain and smoke grass for relief, if I then stop the pain will come back. This pain is not a side-effect of cannabis withdrawal - it is a direct effect of whatever originally caused the pain.Kerrie said:one person i know who still smokes won't quit simply because he feels much less anxious when doped up (he smokes at least a bowl a day). if you refuse to stop because of the symptoms, that's addiction-whether it be on a mental level or physical level. i don't think marijuana addiction is something everyone experiences, but it is for some.
El Hombre Invisible said:Okay, next question: what did you put in your joints other than marijuana? If nothing, fair play you are hardcore. Most people put tobacco in theirs. Thus when they stop smoking they feel anxiety, mood swings, lack of concentration, etc. This are all nictotine withdrawal symptoms.
I don't know your friend, but it sounds to me like he is an anxious person and grass offers relief. If I suffer from chronic pain and smoke grass for relief, if I then stop the pain will come back. This pain is not a side-effect of cannabis withdrawal - it is a direct effect of whatever originally caused the pain.