Sodium Potassium Pump: Why Cells Maintain Ion Balance

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The discussion revolves around the mechanisms and reasons behind the sodium-potassium pump's role in maintaining ion balance within cells, particularly focusing on the low internal concentrations of sodium ions and high internal concentrations of potassium ions. The conversation touches on various applications, including glucose transport and nerve function, as well as the implications of disrupting this balance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the sodium-potassium pump is essential for transporting glucose across the intestinal epithelium through a symport mechanism involving sodium ions.
  • Others mention the pump's role in nerve function, highlighting how it helps maintain a negative charge within the cell after an action potential.
  • One participant notes that the pump is necessary for osmotic balance and cell volume stabilization, citing the effects of ouabain as an inhibitor.
  • There is a discussion about the presence of negatively charged organic molecules in cells, with some participants proposing that amino acids and DNA contribute to this characteristic.
  • Questions arise about the underlying reasons for the predominance of negatively charged organic molecules in cells, indicating a search for deeper understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of the sodium-potassium pump in various cellular functions, but there are differing views on the specific causes and implications of the ion balance, as well as the reasons for the presence of negatively charged molecules in cells. The discussion remains unresolved regarding these underlying causes.

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Some claims depend on specific definitions and assumptions about cellular mechanisms, and the discussion includes unresolved questions about the origins of negatively charged organic molecules.

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Why do cells tend to mantain low internal concentrations of Na ions and high internal concentration of k ions despite the surrounding fluid being low in k ions but high in na ions?
 
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what a coincidence.. I just about this 30minutes ago for exam revision!

Seems it is necessary in the transport of glucose across the intestinal epithelium.

Glucose+Na (symport) into the epithelial cell.
3.Na expelled into the blood stream, while 2K taken. (uses ATP)
Glucose then diffuses out of the cell into blood.

At least i hope that's right.. cause then we'll both be in trouble.


Also necessary in nerve function i believe, pumping out 3Na while taking in 2K means a net charge of -1 within the cell, returning the negative electrical differences across the membrane after an action potential (where the membrane depolarises).

There's probably thousands of things link to this.
 
Jikx said:
what a coincidence.. I just about this 30minutes ago for exam revision!

Seems it is necessary in the transport of glucose across the intestinal epithelium.

Glucose+Na (symport) into the epithelial cell.
3.Na expelled into the blood stream, while 2K taken. (uses ATP)
Glucose then diffuses out of the cell into blood.

At least i hope that's right.. cause then we'll both be in trouble.


Also necessary in nerve function i believe, pumping out 3Na while taking in 2K means a net charge of -1 within the cell, returning the negative electrical differences across the membrane after an action potential (where the membrane depolarises).

There's probably thousands of things link to this.

That indicates the purpose, but what is the cause?

Njorl
 
The cause.. is the sodium/potassium ATPase ion pump? lol
 
The sodium potassium pump is required to maintain osmotic balance and stabilize the cells volume. If you treat an animal cell with ouabain, which inhibits the Na+/K+ pump, it will swell and often burst.

Cells contain mostly negatively charged organic molecules, so they require cations for a counter charge balance: K+. This will create a large osmotic gradients, that would pull water into the cell, so it will pump out Na+.

The pump is also able to generate membrane potential in nerve cells because of its electrogenic effect, but 90% of the membrane potential depends indirectly on the Na+/K+ pump.
 
i suppose the next question would be why cells contain mostly negatively charged organic molecules?
 
http://www.bio.psu.edu/courses/fall2003/biol141_901/membrane_potential/electrophysiology.html

Apparently because of AminoAcids.. maybe DNA too?

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:sCL2TvoIPEsJ:www.csus.edu/indiv/n/nguyenh/Answers%2520to%2520Exams/Bio180%2520Fall2003/24Sep2003%2520Biol180%2520Exam1.htm+mostly+negatively+charged+molecules+in+the+cell&hl=en


*sigh* if only google was allowed during tests :)
 
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