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Soldering Inconel and ceramics

  1. May 18, 2009 #1
    i am doing some research for my university involving soldering an Inconel to a ceramic. i am new to soldering in general, and im new to this lab. the inconel is nickle-chromium (dont know the composition) and i think the ceramic is Ti-oxide/Zn-oxide/Zirconium-oxide or something. basically, im having trouble getting them to bond. right now im using a 51.5-48.5 indium-tin solder. and im using a brazing furnace to run tests.

    i am just wondering if anyone has any experience in this field and if they could give me a little help for my research like what filler material to use, what flux, heating rates, cleaning of the samples, anything. i cant find too many papers covering this topic.

    thank you!
     
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  3. May 20, 2009 #2

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    I'm familiar with brazing Inconels to other Inconels and stainless steel, but not ceramic.

    If one is searching use braze or brazing Inconel to ceramic rather than soldering.

    One should really know the type of Inconel since Ni-Cr contents can vary widely, and one should know the ceramic composition as well. The flux or brazing compound must be chemically compatible with the Inconel and ceramic (metal oxide) substrates.
     
  4. May 20, 2009 #3
    inconel is Inconel 600 (72-14-8 Ni-Cr-Fe or something close to that) and the ceramic is titanium oxide, lead oxide, and zirconium oxide, if that helps. currently we using an argon environment for the brazing.

    we have been putting a small piece of the In-Sn solder between the inconel and ceramic, wrapping it in copper wire, then putting it in the tube furnace. do you think think this method is effective? should we apply the solder to the inconel first, then put on the ceramic, then put it in the furnace to facilitate diffusion? my professor is leaving it up to me to find a solution, but i really dont have any experience with soldering.

    thank you very much!
     
  5. Jun 4, 2009 #4

    If you're allowing the copper wire to touch the indium solder, the
    copper may contaminate the solder. It might be better to find
    another wire to use for binding the parts (perhaps Ti?).

    A very good info source for Indium solder use is www.indium.com, and
    this page: http://www.indium.com/techlibrary/applicationnotes.php
    may be helpful.

    Even better: http://www.indium.com/products/solderkits/bondingtononmetallic.php [Broken]
     
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  7. Feb 16, 2011 #6
    I have a new soldering material for joining ALL METALS and CERAMICS! Please contact me, as I am interested to find out why you need to join ICONEL to ceramics. What is the service temperature of this component?
     
  8. Feb 16, 2011 #7
    Yangloh, Can you explain a little?
    I don't think that one material can use for joining all metalls to ceramic unles your joing are "cold". I explain, I can "joint" two materials with plasticine or a resin or something like that, but this joining can not use in the conditions where you will use the superalloy (high temp, corrosion,...)
    In the environment conditions where I'll use a superalloy I'll need a brazing material or a solding material that it have a very good properties.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2011 #8
    We have just patented a solder alloy that can join dissimilar materials such as aluminum to titanium copper brass steel. And rubies quartz metallic oxides n glass. I was searching for information n stumbled on ur posts. As prickbush on his work on iconel to ceramics. And wondered what application it is for? Indium tin solder that he is using is also v low temperatures! Our solder is at 200 deg n it is lead free n flux free. We are targeting several general repairs industries n the robust microelectronics industries + rf n opto- sectors because of it's ability to solder aluminum n metallize glass. If u could send me ur email, I could seek ur advice. Because you seem like an expert in certain fields. Thank you yang
     
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