Solve ln(x-1)/x-3=2 | Step-by-Step Guide

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with natural logarithms and how to solve an equation involving them. The steps to solve the equation are outlined and a discrepancy between the solution given by the lecturer and the solution obtained by the person asking for help is noted. The conversation ends with a clarification of one of the steps in the solution.
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hi , hope someone can help as i can't get past a certain step
the natural logs is the problem
ln(x-1/x-3)=2
i can get to this point here -1=x(e^2-1)-3
but the lecturer gave a solution of

3e^2-1/e^2-1 = 3.313035285 how do i get to this

the solution i got was this 2/e^2-1 =0.3130352855
 
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Okay, we are given:

\(\displaystyle \ln\left(x-\frac{1}{x}-3\right)=2\)

Converting from logarithmic to exponential form, we have:

\(\displaystyle x-\frac{1}{x}-3=e^2\)

Multiply through by $x$:

\(\displaystyle x^2-1-3x=e^2x\)

Arrange in standard quadratic form:

\(\displaystyle x^2-\left(e^2+3\right)x-1=0\)

Applying the quadratic formula, we obtain:

\(\displaystyle x=\frac{e^2+3\pm\sqrt{\left(e^2+3\right)^2+4}}{2}=\frac{e^2+3\pm\sqrt{e^4+6e^2+13}}{2}\)

This agrees with:

W|A - ln(x-1/x-3)=2
 
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sorry this is what i meant , i wrote the equation the wrong way

this is the correct way

hi , hope someone can help as i can't get past a certain step
the natural logs is the problem
ln⁡((x-1)/(x-3))=2
i can get to this point here -1 = e_x^2-x-3
-1+3=x(ⅇ^2-1)
2 = x(ⅇ^2-1)
2/((ⅇ^2-1) )=x((ⅇ^2-1)/(ⅇ^2-1))
X = 2/(ⅇ^2-1)
the solution i got was this x= (2/(ⅇ^2-1)) → 0.3130352855

but the lecturer gave a solution of
(3ⅇ^2-1)/(ⅇ^2-1) = 3.313035285 how do i get to this
 
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$$\ln\left(\frac{x-1}{x-3}\right)=2$$

$$\frac{x-1}{x-3}=e^2$$

$$x-1=xe^2-3e^2$$

$$x-xe^2=1-3e^2$$

$$x(1-e^2)=1-3e^2$$

$$x=\frac{1-3e^2}{1-e^2}$$

$$x=\frac{3e^2-1}{e^2-1}$$
 
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hi , in your 3rd line of work where did the 2nd (e^2) come from
thanks
 
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$$\frac{x-1}{x-3}=e^2$$

$$x-1=e^2(x-3)$$

$$x-1=xe^2-3e^2$$
 
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thank you i could not see that brilliant
 

1. What is the purpose of solving ln(x-1)/x-3=2?

The purpose of solving this equation is to find the value of x that satisfies the equation. This can be useful in various mathematical and scientific calculations.

2. How do I solve ln(x-1)/x-3=2?

To solve this equation, you will need to use algebraic manipulation and properties of logarithms. First, you will need to isolate the logarithmic term by multiplying both sides of the equation by x-3. Then, you can use the property of logarithms to rewrite the equation as x - 1 = e2(x-3). From there, you can solve for x using basic algebraic techniques.

3. Can you provide a step-by-step guide for solving ln(x-1)/x-3=2?

Yes, here is a step-by-step guide for solving ln(x-1)/x-3=2:
1. Multiply both sides of the equation by x-3 to isolate the logarithmic term. This will give you ln(x-1) = 2(x-3).
2. Use the property of logarithms, ln(a/b) = ln(a) - ln(b), to rewrite the left side of the equation as ln(x-1) - ln(x-3) = 2.
3. Simplify the left side of the equation by combining the logarithmic terms. This will give you ln((x-1)/(x-3)) = 2.
4. Rewrite the equation in exponential form, e2 = (x-1)/(x-3).
5. Solve for x by multiplying both sides of the equation by x-3 and then adding 3 to both sides. This will give you x = 4/(1-e2).

4. Are there any restrictions on the values of x when solving ln(x-1)/x-3=2?

Yes, there are restrictions on the values of x when solving this equation. Since the natural logarithm function ln(x) is only defined for positive values of x, the value inside the logarithm (x-1) must be greater than 0. This means that x must be greater than 1. Additionally, the value of x cannot be 3, as this would result in division by 0.

5. How do I check my solution for ln(x-1)/x-3=2?

To check your solution, you can substitute the value of x into the original equation and see if it holds true. For example, if your solution for x is 2, you would substitute 2 into the equation to get ln(2-1)/(2-3) = 2. Simplifying this, you would get ln(1)/(-1) = 2, which is true. If the equation does not hold true, then your solution is incorrect.

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