What are the solutions to a system of equations involving x, y, and z?

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In summary, the conversation is about finding all pairs (x,y) in the set of real numbers that satisfy the equations \frac{x^4-16}{8x}=\frac{y^4-1}{y} and x^2-2xy+y^2=8. The conversation also includes discussions about the complexity of the problem and possible approaches to finding the solutions. One participant suggests rewriting the equations to make it easier to find the solutions.
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Find all pairs [tex](x,y) \in R [/tex] such that :
[tex]\frac{x^4-16}{8x}=\frac{y^4-1}{y}[/tex] and [tex] x^2-2xy+y^2=8[/tex]
 
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phucghe said:
Find all pairs [tex](x,y) \in R [/tex] such that :
[tex]\frac{x^4-16}{8x}=\frac{y^4-1}{y}[/tex] and [tex] x^2-2xy+y^2=8[/tex]

1) You should write "pairs [tex](x,y) \in R^2 [/tex]" or "[tex]x, y \in R[/tex]".

2) What form do you need the answer in? Looking at those 4th powers and mixed terms, I'm guessing that there might not be a simple or intuitive solution for this.

3) What work have you done on the problem so far?
 
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Mathematica finds 8 complex solutions.
 
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I'am a elemantary pupil so I don't know about complex number
Could anyone give me a complete solution.
 
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CRGreathouse said:
Mathematica finds 8 complex solutions.

Mathematica > my rough analysis of the problem.

If there's only 8 solutions, you can probably find them all by trial and error. To prove that there are exactly 8 solutions, and you have accounted for them all probably requires you to do a little arguing.
 
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phucghe said:
Find all pairs [tex](x,y) \in R [/tex] such that :
[tex]\frac{x^4-16}{8x}=\frac{y^4-1}{y}[/tex] and [tex] x^2-2xy+y^2=8[/tex]
Rewrite your equations as:
[tex]\frac{(x-2)(x+2)(x^{2}+4)}{8x}=\frac{(y-1)(y+1)(y^{2}+1)}{y},(x-y)^{2}=8[/tex]
this ought to help a bit.
 
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thanks but it seems to be not necessary for this problem.
Though by putting x=2z I had : [tex]\frac{z^4-1}{z}=\frac{y^4-1}{y}[/tex],cossidering the function [tex]f(x)=x^3-\frac{1}{x} [/tex] and its monotonousness ,there are still some troubles for example f(x) is not continuous at x=0
 

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