How to solve D.E using Laplace transform?

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In summary, the goal is to find a method other than residue integration to solve the integral \oint_C ds f(s)e^(st) as t approaches infinity. The saddle-point method requires finding the roots of \frac{g'(s)}{g(s)}+t=0, but the method of residue by parts also relies on finding the roots and the poster is unsure how to do
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du/dt=k^2 d^2u/dx^2

b.c
du/dx(o,t)=-qo

i.c
u(x,0)=0

can anyone please tell me what U(o,s)

U(o,s)=integral bwteen o to infinity of du/dx(o,t)e^-st dt

the reason i asked is if

du/dt=k^2 d^2u/dx^2

b.c
u(0,t)=-qo


i.c
u(x,0)=0

U(o,s)=integral bwteen o to infinity of u(o,t)e^-st dt = -qo/s
 
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u(0,t)=-qo

You said du/dx(0,t) = -q0

(Note this is a function of t only)

Make up your mind. And please write out what you're trying to say, because it is quite difficult to read your post. If you could use latex, or at least the sub and sup tags, it would be a lot cleaner.

In general, to solve the heat equation you want to use separation of variables and Fourier series
 
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hi i have to solve this heat equation using laplace transforms i have nearly finshed it I am stuck on finding U(o,s)

du/dt=k^2 d^2u/dx^2

b.c
du/dx(o,t)=-qo

i.c
u(x,0)=0

can anyone please tell me what U(o,s)

U(o,s)=integral between o to infinity of du/dx(o,t)e^-st dt

iv uploaded the pdf file of the problem i hope this helps I am sorry i don't know how to use latex,thanks for the promt reply
http://files-upload.com/203463/ass3maths361.pdf.html
 
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I've never done laplace transforms, so I'm making this on the fly using google

[tex]U(0,s) = \int_0^{\infty}u(0,t)e^{-st}dt[/tex]

Not

[tex]\int_0^{\infty}du/dx(0,t)e^{-st}dt[/tex]

But [tex]dU/dx(0,t) = \int_0^{\infty}du/dx(0,t)e^{-st}dt[/tex]

So you can solve for dU/dx(0,s), and then integrate to get U.

Take this with a grain of salt, as it may be completely wrong

EDIT: Upon further consideration, the last step sounds like junk
 
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cheerz Shredder.thanks for the help
 
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The goal of Laplace transforms is to convert a Differential Equation to a algebraic equation. Office Shredder has presented the basic definitions, but this is not how they are generally used.

Your questions seem to indicate that you are not at all familiar with Laplace Transforms. Perhaps the best thing you could do is get yourself to your profs office and ask for his advice. He may be able to point you to a reference where you can learn what is needed for his class.

Meanwhile:
In his book Operational Mathematics Churchill solves the Heat equation with Laplace Transforms in great detail. He does Laplace transforms on t (time) reducing the problem to a ODE in x, then use standard DE methods to complete the problem.

Look in your text for a table of LP xforms, you do not need to evaluate the integrals O_S has presented, that is what the table are for.

IIRC L{f'(t)} = sF(s) + f(0)

Again if you have NO experience with Laplace Transforms we will not be able to help very much, this is not a good place to learn from scratch. You need to find a good reference and do some reading.


Something else that would help us to help you is for you to go to the tutorial section and read the how to LaTeX thread.
 
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HI..integral, I'm looking for a method different from residue integration to obtain the Integral.

[tex] \oint _{C} ds f(s) exp(st) [/tex]

for t-->oo i have tried [tex] \oint _{C} ds exp(log f(s)) exp(st) [/tex]

but saddle-point method asks me to calculate the roots of

[tex] \frac{g'(s)}{g(s)}+t=0 [/tex]

but I'm stuck on this...
 

1. What is Laplace Transform and how does it help in solving differential equations?

Laplace Transform is a mathematical tool used to convert a differential equation into an algebraic equation. This makes it easier to solve the equation as algebraic equations are generally simpler to manipulate compared to differential equations.

2. Can all types of differential equations be solved using Laplace Transform?

No, not all types of differential equations can be solved using Laplace Transform. It is most effective for linear differential equations with constant coefficients. Nonlinear equations or those with variable coefficients may need different methods for solving.

3. What are the steps involved in solving a differential equation using Laplace Transform?

The steps involved in solving a differential equation using Laplace Transform are:
1. Take the Laplace Transform of both sides of the equation
2. Use algebraic techniques to solve for the unknown function
3. Take the Inverse Laplace Transform to convert the solution back into the original function.

4. Can Laplace Transform be used for initial value problems?

Yes, Laplace Transform can be used to solve initial value problems. After converting the differential equation into an algebraic equation, initial conditions can be substituted to find the specific solution for the given initial values.

5. Are there any limitations or drawbacks of using Laplace Transform to solve differential equations?

One limitation of using Laplace Transform is that it can only be applied to linear differential equations. It also requires knowledge of advanced algebraic techniques and may not always provide an explicit solution. In some cases, the Inverse Laplace Transform may need to be evaluated numerically, which can be time-consuming.

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