The Battle of Mogadishu was more of a failed attack by American forces it was a heavy battle but that's not why America took a lot of flak for it.
I don't know much about pirate strategies, but my guess is they like good weather and calm seas? It also seems as though they don't travel very fast from shore to the point of attack AND once engaged - it's a LONG way back to shore.The area to be covered is also non-trivial - a few million square miles.
There are about 50 cargo vessels passing through the Gulf of Aden every day. Most of them going from or to different parts of Asia. They travel through the active piracy area for about 4-10 days. If each vessel has an escort for an average of 5 days, that's a total of 250 escort vessels.
Actually I'd like to see all of the affected countries Navies pulling together on this one. Share the cost so to speak.Why should the United States spend so many resources on this task.
Except that we don't have all that many left. The Knoxes, Garcias and Brookes are all gone, and maybe we have half of the Perrys still in commission. They are the first casualties of the LCS, I guess. You could use a Burke, but it would really be overkill.Frigates are absolutely the most appropriate ship for this task.
I know. By my count, we only have 31 left so if we want to do it purely with frigates, we must have international participation.Except that we don't have all that many left.
Yes, utlimately it would have to be a mixture of surface ships.You could use a Burke, but it would really be overkill.
Range is the main reason. But then if we use helicopters, the range of a surface-launched missile becomes irrelevant.I don't see why you would need missiles, though. A 3"/62 would certainly make short work of a pirate vessel.
Agreed.But as I said before, so long as this is considered a law enforcement issue, a naval solution is out of the question. As of Friday, the number of convicted pirates in the last 200 years is...six. Personally, I think a more effective technique would be to convince the Somalis that piracy is dangerous.
Yes Luxor was Zawahiri's group, if not specifically his involvement. He's another pirate of sorts in need of a few rounds.They take security of their tourists very seriously after a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxor_massacre" [Broken]...
Thanks. Interesting take. Author's conclusion:Good summary on Somali piracy: http://www.relooney.info/0_New_7596.pdf [Broken].
Nothing particularly new and just about all of the info comes from articles any one could find on their own, but it does gather them up in one article.
How can the international community begin to unravel the dreadfully distorted economics of Puntland piracy? Somali pirates are operating a business; their conduct may be understood by applying a neoclassical microeconomic model of rational utility-maximization. In order to arrest the growth in piracy, the costs and risks of engaging in the crime have to go up and the anticipated benefits must go down. The most effective (and efficient) way to increase the costs of engaging in piracy is to localize enforcement, and shift it from the sea to the shore. Any serious attempt to break the “Freakonomics” of Somali piracy should focus on building the capacity for policing and self-governing the Puntland region, which operates on a budget of $18 million per year.24 Merchant carriers should also implement both armed and passive self-protection measures, raising the risk to pirates. Shipping industry and insurance companies’ reluctance to refuse to pay ransom to free hostages and captured ships makes it difficult to drive down the expected benefits of piracy. The value of piracy in Somalia, however, is relative measured against legitimate occupations such as fishing. To the extent that the international community can help Somalia strengthen the rule of law in society, a healthy economy may begin to emerge. In a nutshell, in order to suppress the Freakonomics of piracy, the West does not need a piracy policy, it needs a Somali policy—one that recognizes the regional and tribal authorities that do the real work of bringing greater stability to a nation awash in hardship.
Apparently there was some US cooperation, ending in concerted opposition to piracy.
Now that is a country for which the US might properly host a lavish state dinner, and not for the country that likely manufactured the AK-47s used by the pirates and jails its Nobel prize laureates.Lee said the U.S. military also assisted in the operation.
I think we should let them go free.That's more like it. A bit more action, that's what we need.
Good on the South Koreans.
Personally, I wouldn't have captured any of them. On an operation like this, even 'execute with extreme prejudice' doesn't really do it for me.
I agree! Say, at 30,000 feet?I think we should let them go free.
Ah, well that'll work, too. It appears you, Jared and I on the same sheet of music. Apparently others, as well.Last year, Russia freed some Somali pirates they captured last year into the ocean. It was 500 km away from land. They were not very good swimmers, it seems. None of them were ever seen again.