Speed of Raindrops Relative to Ground: 31.93 m/s

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The problem involves a train traveling south at 30 m/s while rain falls at an angle of 70° with the vertical, as observed from the ground. The challenge is to determine the speed of the raindrops relative to the ground, considering the effects of the train's motion and the wind's influence on the rain.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the velocity of the train and the angle of the raindrops. Questions arise about how to relate these velocities and the implications of the raindrops appearing to fall vertically from the train's perspective.

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Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on the horizontal components of the velocities involved. There is an acknowledgment of the importance of understanding the relative motion between the train and the raindrops, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of relative velocity and the assumptions about the motion of the raindrops and the train. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the approach to take, indicating a need for further clarification on the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



A train travels due South at 30 m/s (relative to the ground). It is raining and the rain is being blown towards the South by a strong wind. The path of each raindrop makes an angle of 70° with the vertical, as measured by an observer stationary on the ground. An observer on the train however sees the drops fall perfectly vertically. Determine the speed of the raindrops relative to the ground.

The Attempt at a Solution



The correct answer should be 31.93 m/s, but I have absolutely no clue on how to approach this problem. How can we relate the velocity of the train with the angle of the raindrops? Any guidance is very much appreciated.
 
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you've been doing relative velocity??
 
roam said:

Homework Statement



A train travels due South at 30 m/s (relative to the ground). It is raining and the rain is being blown towards the South by a strong wind. The path of each raindrop makes an angle of 70° with the vertical, as measured by an observer stationary on the ground. An observer on the train however sees the drops fall perfectly vertically. Determine the speed of the raindrops relative to the ground.

That sentence in bold is the key to understand the problem. If the rain drops are falling vertically with respect to an observer on the train, then what can you say about the horizontal components of their velocities?
 
cartonn30gel said:
That sentence in bold is the key to understand the problem. If the rain drops are falling vertically with respect to an observer on the train, then what can you say about the horizontal components of their velocities?

The horizontal component of the velocity of train relative to ground is 30 m/s. So the horizontal components of the velocity of the rain relative to train is 30 cos 90 = 0?? :confused:
 
Don't think too much about calculations relative to the train, you've got the right idea

Maybe this diagram will help: http://img571.imageshack.us/f/trainr.jpg/

(When I put it in [ img ] tags it didn't show up)
 
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Thank you very much, Daft. It worked out!
 

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