Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds?

1. Dec 30, 2008

Winzer

What are some preliminary texts/knowledge before approaching: Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds?

2. Dec 30, 2008

JinM

Re: Spivak

Some real analysis (rudin) and linear algebra?

3. Dec 30, 2008

khemix

Re: Spivak

I don't think you need real analysis, even though some of Spivak's problems are harder than in Rudin. Spivak's manifolds is an introduction to multivariate calculus using modern methods, which is why it may be confused as a mutlivariable real analysis book. The only pre-requisite is a strong book in Calculus (see Spivak or Apostol) and linear algebra (see Axler). Spivak is not a full fledged real analysis book in multivariables, it is an introduction to the moderm techniques. So Rudin should come after.

4. Dec 30, 2008

Winzer

Re: Spivak

I am using Spivak's regular book on Calculus right now. Would I be able to tackle it(Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds) afterwards?

What I am really trying to get at is sound knowledge in analysis. I heard that Spivak's Calculus and Calculus of Manifolds were excellent starters. I have heard that Rudin's text are subpar compared to most analysis text. What would come after Spivak? Courant? Apostol(Mathematical Analysis)?

5. Dec 30, 2008

mathwonk

Re: Spivak

spivak is a differential geometer, and rudin is an analyst. thus spivaks book is better for the geometric aspect and rudins is more precise for the analytic one.

e.g. you are better off learning about integration of differential forms from spivak, and maybe some other things (lebesgue integration?) from rudin.

6. Dec 30, 2008

khemix

Re: Spivak

Calculus and analysis are not exactly the same thing. Calculus is more like elementary analysis. Books like Spivak, Courant, and Apostol teach you calculus, although do to their depth there will be a lot of overlap with analysis courses. Spivak's books in particular will prepare you for analysis, not make you master it. After Spivak's books, it is time to move onto real analysis which is more general. For that, the classic text is Rudin, "Principles of Mathematical Analysis". Another book which I am currently using is Pugh's "Real Mathematical Analysis", a book that is quickly becoming the new standard.

7. Dec 30, 2008

samspotting

Re: Spivak

I was taught calculus from stewart, abeit more intensely from lectures but that was what the course was based on. I have since been learning analysis from rudin, is it worthwhile to go back and get better at calculus?

8. Dec 30, 2008

mathwonk

Re: Spivak

i think you are all right, but you may enjoy browsing in a top calculus book like spivak, apostol, or kitchen.

9. Dec 31, 2008

Winzer

Re: Spivak

Thank you all for the clarification. So mastering analysis would make one a master at calculus?

I guess I will start with Rudin's analysis book. What comes after that?