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Spring Engineering is a Pain!

  1. Jul 21, 2012 #1
    I have an application involving a spring and in order to get the proper behavior, I need to solve the problem below. Ive been at it for weeks and havent been able to solve it - which tells me its time to appeal to my mathematical betters.
    Given a spring that exerts 36.6lbs of force(N) while being compressed to 20% of its available deflection, find the combination of active coils(a) and wire diameter(d) that achieves the greatest force when the spring is compressed to %80 of its avilable deflection.

    So basically Ive boiled it down to the two values I need to solve for for each compression:
    eq_1.png
    eq_2.png


    The closest Ive come to something that makes sense is to solve for the first equation (the spring at 20%) in terms of a. Then Rework the second equation with th new value for a. However this seems to produce nonsense when graphed.

    If its relevant the values for the other variables are as follows:
    • G= 11.5x10^6
    • D= 0.269
    • P= tan(12degrees)Pi(D-d)
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    If you need/want to see how I arrived at any of the above conclusions let me know and Ill put it up.
     
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  3. Jul 22, 2012 #2
    Re: Spring Engineering is a PITA

    And this isnt a math problem from a book or anything like that, I structured it that way because its what Im comfortable solving.

    Though if you think it might be better served in the Math area of the forum let me know.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2012 #3
    Re: Spring Engineering is a PITA

    Ive been thinking about it and theoretically what I was doing should have produced a workable result which tells me I possibly messed up at 3 points:
    1) there is no solution to the first equation over my workable range (0,0.06725)
    2) I messed up constructing the equation on paper (algebraic error)
    3) I messed up translating the equation from paper to a computationally workable form

    So for now I'm going to review point 1 and if it exists ill head over to the math section to verify my equations.
     
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