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Homework Help: Spring physics/math problem

  1. Jan 14, 2010 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A spring is attached to a ceiling with a distance of 20 meters from the ground to the tip of the spring. The spring is brought down 5 meters down (This means 15 meters from the ground) and then released. The spring loses 5% of its energy each second. Assume a period of pi. Determine an equation to model the distance from ground in terms of time.

    2. Relevant equations

    Trig function that exponentially gets smaller amplitude. I'm guessing the period would get shorter.

    3. The attempt at a solution

    My guess is f(x) = .95^(x)(-5cos(pi(1.05^x))) + 16

    Can someone verify/correct me.
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  3. Jan 15, 2010 #2


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    You are told that the period is pi, a constant! So, immediately, your "guess" that the period would get shorter is incorrect. The decrease in energy is a decrease in the amplitude of the motion, not the period. A function of period pi is either sin(2t) or cos(2t). Further the motion will be symmetric around the "rest position" which you are told is 20 meters from the ground. Letting x be the distance from the ground to the tip of the spring, x(t)= 20- A(t)cos(2t). The spring will be at its lowest point when t is a multiple of pi: t= n pi, where x(2n pi)= 20- A(n pi). The reason I am looking at the lowerst point is that the speed, and so kinetic energy, will be 0 there so the total energy is just the potential energy which, relative to the ground, is mgx= 20mg- mgA(n pi). In n pi seconds, it will have lost .05n pi of its original energy which was 15mg: Solve mg(20- A(n pi))= .05n\pi(15 mg) or, more generally, 20- A(t)= .05n pi(15), for A(t).
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