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Homework Help: SR: 2 particle collision

  1. Jun 4, 2007 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Two particles, A and B, have the same rest mass, m. Suppose that, in O, A has 3-velocity (V,0,0) and B is at rest. The particles collide elastically at the origin and after the collision A has 3-velocity [itex](a \cos(\theta), a \sin(\theta),0)[/itex] while B has 3-velocity [itex](b \cos(\phi), -b \sin(\phi),0)[/itex], where [itex]a, b, \theta, \phi[/itex] are constants.

    Define the 4-momentum of a massive particle. By using conservation of 4-momentum in the above collision, show that

    [tex]\cot(\theta)\cot(\phi) = \frac{1}{2}(\gamma(V)+1)[/tex]

    2. Relevant equations
    I defined the 4-momentum as follows

    [tex]P^a = m_0 \frac{dx^a}{d\tau} = \gamma(u) m_0 (c, \vec{u}) = (E/c, \vec{p})[/tex]

    which defines the energy and momentum as [itex]E= \gamma m_0 c^2 \mbox{ and }\vec{p} =\gamma m_0 \vec{u}[/itex] respectively.

    I wrote the conservation of four-momentum equation as (the masses don't appear as they cancel out)

    \gamma(V) c \\
    \gamma(V) V \\
    0 \\
    0 \end{bmatrix}


    c \\
    0 \\
    0 \\
    0 \end{bmatrix}


    \gamma(a) c \\
    \gamma(a) a \cos(\theta) \\
    \gamma(a) a \sin(\theta) \\
    0 \end{bmatrix}


    \gamma(b) c \\
    \gamma(b) b \cos(\phi) \\
    -\gamma(b) b \sin(\phi) \\
    0 \end{bmatrix}

    3. The attempt at a solution
    The equation in the zeroth component gave me

    [tex]\gamma(V) + 1 = \gamma(a) + \gamma(b)[/tex]

    Aha! I thought. All I now need to show is that the products of the cotangents will be twice the above sum, and I'm done.

    To get the cotangent of each angle, I divided the cosine of it by the sine of it. This is fairly straightforward from the equation above. So I got

    [tex]\cot(\theta) = \frac{\cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)} = \frac{\gamma(V) V - \gamma(b) b \cos(\phi)}{\gamma(b) b \sin(\phi)},
    \cot(\phi) = \frac{\cos(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)} = \frac{\gamma(V) V - \gamma(a) a \cos(\theta)}{\gamma(a) a \sin(\theta)}[/tex]

    So I did what any sane man would do, and multiplied them together to get

    [tex]\cot(\theta)\cot(\phi) = \frac{\gamma(V)^2 V^2 - \gamma(b)\gamma(V) b V \cos(\phi) - \gamma(a)\gamma(V) a V \cos(\theta) + \gamma(a)\gamma(b) a b \cos(\theta)\cos(\phi)}{ab\gamma(a)\gamma(b)\sin(\theta)\sin(\phi)}.[/tex]

    Any amount of playing around with this fraction, and using the identity [itex]\gamma(u)^2(c^2-u^2)=c^2[/itex] didn't get me any closer to the answer. I was looking to equate the horrible-looking fraction above to [itex]1/2(\gamma(a)+\gamma(b))[/itex] but have had no luck so far.

    Thank you for taking the time to read the somewhat long question. Just for context, this is part of a question from a past paper (3rd year undergraduate Maths at Oxford).
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2007
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  3. Jun 5, 2007 #2


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    Don't try to just do everything at one. Realize that each equation allows you to eliminate one variable of your choice. Since there are five variables, and 3 of them appear in the final equation, this tells you which ones you need to get rid of: a and b.

    From the last two equations you can derive:

    [tex] a \gamma_a = \frac{v \gamma_v}{\sin(\theta) (cot(\theta)+\cot(\phi))} [/tex]

    And a similar equation for b by switching [itex]\theta[/itex] and [itex]\phi[/itex]. Then using:

    [tex]\gamma_a=\sqrt{ (a \gamma_a)^2 + 1 } [/tex]

    You can eliminate a and b in the first equation. From there it's just a lot of algebra that I'll let you work on.

    Since the final equation is so simple, I'm guessing there's some shortcut, but I don't see it. Often you won't realize the shortcut until you do it the hard way. Then at least you can use it in the write up, or when a similar problem comes up again.
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2007
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