Strictly speaking you're right. But the value of the work put in has to be defined to determine whether or not a person is making more than what they put into their job. With any non-tangable resource, such as what your average joe puts into his work, this is difficult. Strictly speaking you could say that any one worker's labour has a value equal to one person's necessities for survival. This way we are absolutely certain that no one is making a profit. The problem here is what happens to a family? Will one person's work have enough value to support their whole family? If this is not the measuring stick that we use then what will be? What of the people who do not, or are incapable of, work? Do they not profit if they receive something even though they did not work for it? They have invested nothing so they should get nothing back right?Smurf said:No, profit is gain after expenses. If you're only making enough to survive, you're not making a profit, are you?