Statistical Mechanics: Ideal Gas of Oxygen Atoms in Equilibrium

In summary, the conversation discusses the question of whether classical or quantum statistics should be used to describe an ideal gas of oxygen atoms in equilibrium with oxygen atoms absorbed on a planar surface. The equation presented includes a +/- sign, indicating that it encompasses both Fermi-Dirac and Bose-Einstein statistics. The differences between these two statistics are suggested to be looked up for clarification. It is also mentioned that the classical limit of quantum statistics gives back classical statistics. The question remains whether classical or quantum statistical mechanics should be used for this problem.
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Consider an ideal gas of oxygen atoms in equilibrium with oxygen atoms absorbed on a planar surface. here are N_s sites per unit surface area at which the atoms can be absorbed, and the energy of an absorbed atom is -e compared to one in the free state. The system is under 1 atm and at 300K.

Should the atoms be described by classical statistics or quantum statistics? I need to show this qualitatively and here's what I have:

[tex]\frac{1}{e^{(\epsilon-\mu)/kT} \pm 1}[/tex]
In the classical limit, [itex]\epsilon-\mu>>kT[/tex]

But we do not know what e is, or mu. Not sure where to go from here, any hints physics forums?
 
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Your equation encompasses both Fermi-Dirac and Bose-Einstein statistics because you have a +/- sign in there. Look up both Fermi-Dirac and Bose-Einstein statistics to find out the differences.
 
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badphysicist said:
Your equation encompasses both Fermi-Dirac and Bose-Einstein statistics because you have a +/- sign in there. Look up both Fermi-Dirac and Bose-Einstein statistics to find out the differences.

Exactly, since quantum statistics becomes Boltzmann maxwell statistics at the classical limit, so I have the +/- for generality. Thus, regardless of a BE or FD distribution, taking the classical limit will give back classical stat.

Now, the question is, do I use classical statmech or quantum statmech for this problem?
 

1. What is statistical mechanics?

Statistical mechanics is a branch of physics that uses statistical methods to study the behavior of large systems of particles. It aims to understand and predict the macroscopic properties of a system based on the microscopic behavior of its constituent particles.

2. What is an ideal gas?

An ideal gas is a theoretical model of a gas that follows the ideal gas law, which states that the pressure, volume, and temperature of a gas are related by the equation PV = nRT, where P is pressure, V is volume, n is the number of moles of gas, R is the gas constant, and T is temperature. In an ideal gas, the particles do not interact with each other and have no volume.

3. How are oxygen atoms represented in an ideal gas?

In an ideal gas of oxygen atoms, each atom is considered a point particle with no volume. This means that the atoms do not take up any space and do not interact with each other. The atoms are also assumed to have the same mass and energy.

4. What does it mean for an ideal gas of oxygen atoms to be in equilibrium?

In statistical mechanics, equilibrium refers to a state where the macroscopic properties of a system do not change over time. For an ideal gas of oxygen atoms, this means that the pressure, volume, and temperature of the gas remain constant. This state is achieved when the number of particles entering and leaving the system is equal, and the particles have reached a uniform distribution.

5. How is statistical mechanics used to study an ideal gas of oxygen atoms in equilibrium?

Statistical mechanics uses probability and statistical methods to analyze the behavior of a large number of particles in a system. For an ideal gas of oxygen atoms in equilibrium, statistical mechanics can be used to calculate the distribution of particles, their energy levels, and other macroscopic properties such as pressure and temperature. This allows us to make predictions about the behavior of the gas and understand how it will change under different conditions.

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